W3C

– DRAFT –
XForms Group Weekly Teleconference

22 November 2024

Attendees

Present
Alain, Erik, Steven
Regrets
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Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Meeting minutes

<Alain> Please send me the meet link (currently on another PC)

https://meet.google.com/dfz-rwpj-opq

ACTION: Steven write spec text for bind bindings to simpleContent

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/25-forms-minutes.html#01bf

Steven: Continues

ACTION: Steven to fix 'empty sequence' in calculate and initial.

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/25-forms-minutes.html#d1cc

Steven: Done

ACTION: Steven to rewrite note at

implementation_Requirements_Common_to_All_Controls to make clear it's about

text and comment nodes etc.

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/25-forms-minutes.html#8aa4

Steven: Continues

ACTION: Steven check the binding conditions for @initial, and make

the error treatment the same

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Oct/0015

Steven: Done

ACTION: Steven spec text for 'initial' MIP

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2024Oct/0012

Steven: I think this is finished, except for the <insert/> case.

ACTION: Erik to report evaluating vars in model

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/04-forms-minutes.html#6c49

ACTION: Erik to report evaluating vars in model

https://www.w3.org/2024/10/04-forms-minutes.html#6c49

Steven: So I understand that vars are evaluated in the body at a refresh amd in the model immediately before rebuild, recalculate, and refresh
… you also say "there is no dependency system mandated"

Erik: The order is vars first and then binds

Erik: The assumption is you evaluate in textual order.

Steven: So you have to write vars in the order of dependencies.

Erik: What is the alternative?

Steven: Well we do that for calculates

Erik: I don't think calculate orders on var references
… we don't require it
… I wonder if there are other types of dependencies.
… it has the benefit of simplicity
… if we use textual ordering.

Alain: Surely it is easier for users if vars are evaluated in dependency order, so it can be done in the same way for vars in the model. Not a problem for the implementor.
… everything is a node in XSLTForms
… it is better if it is textually ordered.

Erik: I am fine if we define it to be done in textual order.

Steven: I propose adding a note asking for user feedback.

ACTION: Steven to add var evaluation to the model

AOB

Steven: Regrets for next week

Next meeting 6 December

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Summary of action items

  1. Steven to add var evaluation to the model
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