APA Weekly Teleconference

13 December 2023


Fazio, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, mike_beganyi, niklasegger, PaulG, Roy_
matatk, PaulG

Meeting minutes

matatk: we have a new member, Rita Shewbridge

Agenda Review & Announcements

matatk: I asked last week about who will attend CSUN because there's an opportunity to meet and conduct some WG or TF work

<Fazio> I'll be at CSUN

matatk: if anyone else knows they're attending, please let me know

Fazio: can we use the room to do presentations about w3c work?

matatk: I think it will depend on what agreement is reached with the conference. My expectation is that it's just for private work but I can ask

CSS Update (Paul) - https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues


<gb> Issue 5477 [css-lists] CSS counter scope/inheritance is incompatible with HTML ordinals (by MatsPalmgren) [css-lists-3] [CSS2] [Needs Testcase (WPT)]

PaulG: About counters and how they work with HTML list structures. Currently there's not agreement, and they're trying to work through it.

Actions Checkin (Specs) - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

Thank you to APA, from the Devices and Sensors WG: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Dec/0009.html

matatk: (see the email) we came up with some text for Devices and Sensors compute pressure spec

<Lionel_Wolberger> +1 to APA team efforts!

matatk: and I'm going to approve it since it's exactly what we suggested

matatk: as discussed in the email, we talked about how they want to give developers resources to help reach these recommendations
… I'm asking if anyone wants to have another look or if we want to contribute to the guides
… a good example is



matatk: we're talking about software: color alone and toast messages

Fazio: icloud has a meter approach that doesn't rely on color


I'll look at the examples to make sure we're talking about the right pattern to use here

Fazio: dynamic elements that appear to be interactive but aren't that's a problem

One's assigned GitHub tasks: issues/assigned

Dangling Spec Review Cleanup - https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

Task Force & Deliverables Updates


matatk: if you're involved in TF work and you want to briefly share that


matatk: in discussions something is discussed and later promoted into issues
… the challenge is you can comment on lines of code but that's not accessible to screenreader users
… discussions should be accessiblel
… so we're proceeding with discussions of general things and it's more integrated and visible to the public

One of the upcoming specs: https://github.com/w3c/adapt/blob/add-explainers/explainers/well-known-destinations.md

matatk: this is an example of a discussion being worked into a spec


Fazio: there should be updates in the document we're going to publish before the end of the year

<Roy_> https://w3c.github.io/maturity-model/

Fazio: is there a good tutorial for github?

matatk: there should be one, especially for non-developers, that we can recommend

<Roy_> https://w3c.github.io/

Other Business

matatk: we are meeting next week.
… TF's may or may not

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 221 (Fri Jul 21 14:01:30 2023 UTC).


All speakers: Fazio, matatk, PaulG

Active on IRC: Fazio, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, mike_beganyi, niklasegger, PaulG, Roy_