Meeting minutes
Minutes Review
<kaz> Nov-15
McCool: we had resolutions
to transition to REC
… we approved TPAC minutes
McCool: Any objections?
McCool: approved
Quick Updates
McCool: Smart Cities discussion with nordic chapter will be monday next week
<kaz> Doodle to see new TD slots
ek: if you are interested in joining the TD call, please answer the td call
Kaz: if we expect more people to the TD calls, we should contact them directly in addition to the doodle poll.
McCool: we should set a deadline for the inputs
McCool: mid december as last input and new slot can be effective as of january
New Charter Organization
McCool: we will discuss policies after this hour
McCool: we should organize the project management ourselves
McCool: we can talk about it in a separate call as well
ek: we have github
project as one solution. We need to incorporate use cases, 100+
issues and make it something digestable
… and not force something that people do not
like
Kaz: We should focus on the entire process and not on a specific tool
McCool: I forgot to mention but yes, we need to think of the entire process
Kaz: we need clarify what we mean by "Project Management"
McCool: we should focus on
such topics as small teams, not involve everyone at the same
time
… so they can come up with an initial
proposal
Kaz: we should clarify that initial team, how to join it etc.
Publications
McCool: We will have a discussion about resources
McCool: but two points to be done for the spec HTML
need to add description on the Changes from the previous Proposed REC version
need to update the URLs for the cross reference among the three specs within the Reference sections
Kaz: second point can
be done by me
… but first point should be done by the
Editors
McCool: we can go over the diff quickly
Kaz: I will do the URLs work
McCool: I will do for discovery and architecture
McCool: we will have a discussion on resources
<kaz> please go directly to the last line of the agenda to make the long story short. In short, we don't need
Kaz: we do not need to change anything, PLH and Webmaster agreed on the current direction. So I'm already working with the Webmaster to update the .htaccess files for 2019 resources and 2022 resources.
McCool: in that case, we can ignore that agenda item on resources discussion
McCool: it would be good to have human readable versions of the ontologies
McCool: anythine else for the resources?
ek: we should document the process
Press Release
McCool: we got a testimonial from a company called VE3
McCool: we should not accept anymore
sk: we do not know how they have access to this document
McCool: the content looks good assuming they are member
McCool: maybe he is a member but as a different company
<kaz> (kaz is asking the MarComm Team about that)
McCool: we have a separate case with Luca since he has two hats
<McCool> proposal: Accept VE3 additional testimonial to press release for WoT REC publication conditional upon confirmation that VE3 is a W3C member.
Kaz: Do we need another resolution
McCool: if we do a resolution now, we would have pre approved it
McCool: I just want to ask whether the group is ok with this
sk: We want to do a resolution so that it is clarified for later on
Kaz: we should get clarification from marcom first
McCool: ok let's skip and delay by a week
<kaz> q|
TPAC minutes
Kaz: we already approved the minutes from our own WoT meeting day 1/day 2, but still need to clarify action items from the WoT CG joint meeting, e.g., the roles of groups.
Kaz: the minutes are fine but we should get the action items from this
RESOLUTION: approve
minutes from CG/IG/WG joint call here:
https://
<kaz> initial bullet points on groups' roles
<kaz> [ 10min break]
policy discussion
<kaz> PRs with "Policy" label
PR #1130
<kaz> PR 1130 - [Policy] Move policy-adoption.md from "proposals" to "policies"
Sebastian: this policy is
about adopting policies
… describes the process for adopting
policies
… is there any discussion?
Kaz: we already had a dedicated discussion some time ago and simplified this process considerably based on the Charter description
McCool: +1 on adopting this
Sebastian: we need to update
the links
… (fixed links in live edit)
… any objections to merging?
… merged
PR #1131
<kaz> PR 1131 - [Policy] Move social-media.md from "proposals" to "policies"
<Ege> https://
Ege: we have already
adopted this policy and are using it
… it describes some rules for publication on social
media
Kaz: OK with this
policy since it's already approved
… but we need to think about another aspect, which
platform to use
McCool: suggest that we add
a line requiring a group resolution to adopt a new platform
… or to discontinue using a current
platform
Sebastian: (live edit to add the suggested rule)
Kaz: also need to add new settings for using a platform, e.g. user name
McCool: significant change to the use of a current platform
Daniel: change twitter to twitter/X in the document text
Sebastian: any objections to
merging this PR and making this the policy?
… or more comments/changes suggested?
… merged
PR #1128 - Chairs decision process
https://
McCool: this includes a
list of what can be decided by chairs
… we can add to it when we encounter new
situations
Sebastian: it requires a majority decision process and explains how to handle absence of a chair
McCool: the important point is 2 chairs are a quorum and can decide
Kaz: we should move the voting part to the last point and describe an alternate voting process by email
McCool: this is covered in the current policy
Kaz: we should state that the Tuesday meeting is where decisions are made
McCool: we could say that the policy applies to decisions made in the chairs meeting
McCool: we need to think about more considerations for a asynchronous chair decision policy
Kaz: this policy is useful but not sufficient
McCool: suggest we adopt this now and add the async decision process later
Kaz: what kind of topic does this apply to?
McCool: things we haven't discovered yet
Kaz: this is too
specific as an initial starting point
… for example, when we decided the IG charter
extension by email, we waited for 3 way consensus
Sebastian: we could clarify that this policy can be extended
Kaz: we could start with a much simpler policy without specific detail
McCool: the policy addresses some process we are already using
Kaz: the concern is we have 4 people including the team contact
Kaz: would like the team contact to be involved in the consensus. I don't want to override the Chairs opinions but would like to continue the discussion until getting actual "consensus" within the Chairs Team (=3 co-Chairs and Team Contact)
McCool: we should consider the team contact
Sebastian: we should leave this open and refine in the chairs call
<McCool> time check: 2m left
issue # 1117, roles and responsibilities between WG and IG
<kaz> Issue 1117 - [Policy Proposal] Roles and responsibilities within the WG/IG
McCool: we could address this in the IG charter discussion
<kaz> wot-cg PR 93 - Proposal for WG and IG liaison
Kaz: Ege generated some content about this issue
Ege: doesn't explain enough but is a starting point
McCool: we can use it as a first draft
Sebastian: we are over time, need to close
McCool: we are not planning a 2 hour call next week, but will add the second hour in the meeting after
Sebastian: adjourned
<Ege> We start the TD Call at 10 past