W3C

WAI Coordination

05 June 2023

Attendees

Present
GeorgeK, jamesn, janina, Lionel, maryjom, matatk, MichaelC, tzviya
Regrets
Chuck
Chair
MichaelC
Scribe
janina, matatk

Meeting minutes

Infoshare and coordination checks

<Zakim> matatk, you wanted to ask for an agendum on citing WAI guidelines generally

<janina> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/apa-wg-recharter/results

janina: Please vote on the APA re-charter

janina: One person asked for a change, which we intend to accommodate

MichaelC: APA's re-charter is open until the June 20th. It would be good (but not mandatory) to get more votes.

<jamesn> is there a link to the charter?

AB election results

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9933

https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/9933 HT tzviya

Switching to zakim commands

MichaelC: Trackbot is being retired. Some people are still using it, e.g. to start meetings.
… You may want to remind your groups to switch to 'zakim, start meeting'

janina: I like the 'zakim, end meeting' command; helps run needed cleanup (e.g. attendees list) in addition to making the minutes for you.

GeorgeK: Is there a link to Zakim docs?

<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

Exploration on project reviews

MichaelC: Mini project reviews would be ~10min presentations in which we go into enough depth that people have an understanding of what the work is, the use cases, and relation to the work we're all doing.
… Would something like this be of interest?

matatk: Would like to know what's being done elsewhere boilerplate

matatk: Would be useful

<MichaelC> Interest in adding project reviews to WAI CC

+1

<MichaelC> -1, 0, +1

+1

<Lionel> +1

<jamesn> 0

<kakinney> 0 - joined late so i won't vote

<tzviya> +1

MichaelC: I'll put together a more solid plan for how this would work.

MichaelC: Are there other ways of keeping ourselves well-coordinated that come to the top of people's minds?

Project check-ins

MichaelC: No news this week (working on it in the background). Anyone with anything to add?

Citing WAI resources

Thanks Shawn for this info: https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/linking/

matatk: Background: Good contact with other groups like adding A11y Considerations sections to their docs

matatk: Even had groups that didn't think they had an a11y impact, but our interaction helped them to understand they did, and how a AC section could help

matatk: helpful to link to guidelines when we can that are pertinent

. Rather not just link to overview--great, but not as much impact

. importantly doesn't appear in references at bottom of the document

. Could we have a respec id, whatever that is, so that the AC could be citable?

MichaelC: Yes, possible to do in respec

MichaelC: And it needn't be a TR doc

MichaelC: How we want it to look, i.e. what's the common pattern?

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to answer the technical part

<MichaelC> respec localbiblio

matatk: We had a suboptimal example where WCAG in general was cited, but could have had better #offset href

tzviya: asks whether citations or boilterplate

Here's the page we're thinking would be good to make into a citation: https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to ask about citable resources

MichaelC: An editorial question, I normally think of an academic citation; some of our support resources straddle the line between citation and href

shawn: Great this has come up, would like to look at the specific case

shawn: Happy to help resolve referencability

<tzviya> +1 to updating specref

jamesn: Think we shouldn't use local biblio, rather get specref updated correctly

<MichaelC> Specref

<tzviya> https://www.specref.org/

jamesn: Notes current default wcag points to 1.0, so needs better referencing

matatk: Will follow up with Shawn

matatk: Agree on academic, but helping raise awareness is useful, too

<jamesn> https://www.specref.org/?q=WCAG

matatk: Agree on specref

<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say specref update we should qa

<Lionel> +1 to James idea, of pointing to more current versions

MichaelC: spec ref should not contain everything either

MichaelC: local biblio first, in my general approach

MichaelC: We could create a pr for spec ref

MichaelC: meanwhile a local biblio--but don't forget to migrate away!

jamesn: people tend not to change once it's working

ACTION: Matthew and Shawn to conferon a solution for referencing

New WAI CC telecon info

Summary of action items

  1. Matthew and Shawn to conferon a solution for referencing
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Maybe present: shawn

All speakers: GeorgeK, jamesn, janina, matatk, MichaelC, shawn, tzviya

Active on IRC: GeorgeK, jamesn, janina, kakinney, Lionel, maryjom, matatk, MichaelC, shawn, tzviya