W3C

– DRAFT –
WoT-IG/WG

22 February 2023

Attendees

Present
Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Ege_Korkan, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Luca_Barbato, Michael_Koster, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Tetsushi_Matsuda, Tomoaki_Mizushima
Regrets
Sebastian
Chair
McCool
Scribe
Ege, ek, kaz

Meeting minutes

Minutes

<kaz> Feb-8

McCool: any objections to minutes?

McCool: hearing none, published

Planning

McCool: We should table the use cases call for now since we should work on the charter
… since we can use the use cases call

McCool: ege can you send a reminder about the marketing call?

Ege: yes, the chairs and staff can be present in that meeting

Developer meeting

McCool: we have talked about having a developer meeting

McCool: they should be in the week of march 27

McCool: let's do the rest of the discussion in the testing call

McCool: there is also a binding meetup at the JP CG

Kaz: I have put it in the agenda. I thought we have two events, one binding meetup and one testing

McCool: what is the purpose of the binding meetup?

Kaz: chairs and some other participants will handle the topic for japanese stakeholders

McCool: I think we should focus on one deliverable

Kaz: that is why I want to split them

Kaz: we can take the feedback of the JP CG in the form of a report

Publication Schedule

McCool: we have missed the deadline for charter draft submission

Ege: there is a PR for update from Scripting API
… also mine for Binding Templates

McCool: we can change the date

PR 1074

<kaz> wot PR 1074 - Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md Scripting publication

Daniel: yes so one for review and then the publication date

McCool: I would like to merge it, any objections?

PR 1075

<kaz> wot PR 1075 - Update wg-2021-extension-plan.md - charter

McCool: no conflicts.
… any objections?

McCool: now march 1 is the deadline for the charter draft

McCool: we should revisit the profile schedule

McCool: I will update discovery deadline and bring to the discovery call

<McCool_> w3c/wot#1076

Charter meeting logistics

Kaz: BTW, you mentioned reusing the UC/Architecture calls for the Charter discussion, but/, we should talk with michael lagally for using the UC call and Architecture call for the Charter discussion

McCool: I want to postpone the minutes review

McCool: let's check the minutes quickly because Lagally might have agreed
… it is not clearly recorded within the minutes from yesterday's meeting, but I am sure we discussed it

Kaz: yeah, however, the discussion went messy in the end, and that proposal was not explicitly recorded. So I'd suggest we check with Lagally, and also confirm during this call as well around when to have the Charter discussion.

Publication Schedule - revisited

PR 1071

Ege: about the previous topic, could we look at the PR on binding templates

McCool: not hearing any objections and it is an update

<McCool_> wot PR 1071 - Add Binding Templates to publication plan

<McCool_> merged

Charter meeting logistics - revisited

McCool: we are taking more than last time which was 4h

McCool: I do not want to steal UC call given Lagally is not here.

McCool: how about the Discovery call on Feb-27?

McCool: hearing no objections

McCool: then we can have a final draft on the march 1st

Ege: should we have the details document ready as well?

McCool: maybe but it is not a must

Ege: how about the policy?

McCool: not for now, it is an internal decision

McCool: we do not even need work items

McCool: it is good for planning purposes

Kaz: I agree. If the detailed descriptions were ready for the AC review, we could add links to those resources. However, that's not the case. So we should concentrate on the high-level descriptions within the Charter.

(Lagally joins)

McCool: I believe we have decided to use arch call for charter, are you ok with that?

McCool: also, during this call we have agreed to use the discovery call for charter discussion

Lagally: if we can use the use cases call for charter discussion
… it would be better

McCool: let's use discovery and if not enough, let's use the use cases call too

Lagally: I am missing the big picture for the next charter

Lagally: especially for the TD, I see no major proposed new features that justify a major version upgrade.

Lagally: what is the high level purpose of the work for the next 2-3 years

McCool: for td 2.0, we have a long list of waiting features

Kaz: I agree

McCool: let's have more discussion tomorrow

McCool: I havent had time to think about testing in a while

McCool: I have been playing with cameras and found way to cover gaps

Liaisons

McCool: any comments about liaisons

Kaz: PLH is happy to help us about liaisons, so we should invite him to the Charter meeting when we talk about liaisons (as he himself also proposed).

McCool: we should invite PLH to review the charter

McCool: we should have a reviewable draft. Let's talk about when to invite PLH tomorrow.

WoT CG collaboration

Meetup on Feb 23

https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/d29a941e-0bc3-4a2c-abaa-1f711a0ea9a2

Ege: will have a meetup tomorrow on Feb 23. Information available within the calendar above.

McCool: I cannot attend but please attend if you are interested in the topic

wot-charter-drafts PR 41 - Expand WoT CG collaboration

CG collaboration text for the WG Charter

w3c/wot-charter-drafts#41

McCool: the md document is just for us internally, it will not go into the charter

Kaz: this PR 41 for the Charter document is fine. However, we still need to elaborate the policy about CG collaboration, and that should be done separately from the Charter work itself.

Lagally: There is another PR about the role of the IG

Lagally: IG collab should not be limited to use cases

McCool: please use the suggestion button

Ege: where should the detailed policy should go?

Kaz: we should work on the detailed policy at some point, but that's not required now.

McCool: we can work on that md document

McCool: let's start at 10 past

<kaz> [adjourned]

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 210 (Wed Jan 11 19:21:32 2023 UTC).