W3C

– DRAFT –
APA Weekly Teleconference

15 feb 2023

Attendees

Present
Fazio, Fredrik, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, mike_beganyi, niklasegger, PaulG, present, Roy
Regrets
Mike_Beganyi
Chair
Janina
Scribe
Fredrik, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk

Meeting minutes

<janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-maturity/

<janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/maturity-model/

<janina> https://www.w3.org/groups/tf/rqtf/participants

Agenda Review & Announcements

janina: Noted some errors in APA charter, we are backing off and correcting them.

New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

Rechartering Web Machine Learning Working Group

<Roy> - charter: https://w3c.github.io/machine-learning-charter/charter.html

<Roy> https://w3c.github.io/machine-learning-charter/charter.html

janina: We do wish to read the Web Machine Learning Working Group Charter closely
… particularly in light of the recent AI/ML presentation given by Lionel Wolberger in RQTF
… RQTF also took up today work on an ethics statement associated with AI/ML on the web

Explicit Review Requests https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues

CSS Update (Paul) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

<PaulG> w3c/a11y-request#29

PaulG: People are willing to consider transparency along with multiple algorithms, all good

<PaulG> w3c/a11y-request#44

<PaulG> w3c/a11y-request#20

<PaulG> w3c/a11y-request#13

Paul: Of the open issues, recommends hold open #29
… the other three may be closed/resolved

<PaulG> w3c/a11y-review#129 (oldest in review)

[Discussion of how to track]

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

Fingerprinting

<janina> action-2306?

<trackbot> action-2306 Fredrik Fischer to Review mitigating browser fingerprinting in web specifications (https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/mitigating_browser_fingerprinting_in_web_specifications) due 2021-09-01 -- due 2021-09-01 -- CLOSED

Fredrik: It's a very neat little note; makes interesting points.
… I think the document is solid and presents its argument, and measures to mittigate fingerprinting, well.

<janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Feb/0023.html

matatk: Note Fredrik's full review is at the URL above.

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Mitigating_Browser_Fingerprinting_in_Web_Specifications

matatk: +1

janina: +1

Automotive Business Group

<janina> AKA AVBG

<janina> action-2303?

<trackbot> action-2303 Fredrik Fischer to Review the accessibility section in the viss best practices document, https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/wiki/best_practices#accessibility_.28a11y.29 due 09/04/21 -- due 2021-08-11 -- CLOSED

<janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa/2023Feb/0022.html

Fredrik: (review is at the link given just above)

Fredrik: Note this is a living document. Very broad in ambition.
… There's a very extensive accessibility section, including having liaised with APA.

Fredrik: They seem to really want to continue to liaise with us, and their work ties into many other groups' work.

janina: APA is a good fit for this.

Fredrik: I'm not sure what the current state is, from this particular document, as to whether the relevant groups are communicating. Not sure if they are keeping this doc up to date.

Fredrik: I tried to find a published document (as opposed to wiki page).
… A related group has a document on TR, but not this one.
… I suggest getting in touch with them again, to see where they stand.

matatk: +1

Fredrik: Maybe they work on GitHub, or elsewhere; we'd like to review what they're working on, and them likewise.

janina: COGA and RQTF would be interested. They weren't thinking of terms in fully automated driving when last we spoke (but in scope would be entertainment etc.) Not sure where we are on smart glass adjusting to lighting conditions etc.
… RQTF is not just about vision impairment; maybe time to ask our representatives from other communities.
… We could ping every x months and see what people have to add.
… Great that they're willing, eager, and want use cases. We can provide.

Fazio: Can we engage RQTF on general research? (Not just standards-based.)

janina: Sure - if it falls within the scope of APA's charter.

janina: Work continues. CTAUR seems to be in hand right now.

janina: Michael is working on an overall document of how we manage in WAI, how much time we give one another, how we track thigns.

janina: It will be looked at as a group and signed off on and formalized in terms of a set of expectations.

Maturity Model

Fazio: Looking for people to join us!

janina: Everyone's participating but no one's showing up. Not unheard of.

matatk: Mark Miller, TPGi's Director of Sales, just joined, and will be in the meeting today :-)

Other Business

janina: No other business.

Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 210 (Wed Jan 11 19:21:32 2023 UTC).

Diagnostics

Succeeded: s/Sure./Sure - if it falls within the scope of APA's charter./

Maybe present: Paul

All speakers: Fazio, Fredrik, janina, matatk, Paul, PaulG

Active on IRC: Fazio, Fredrik, janina, Lionel_Wolberger, matatk, matatk_, PaulG, Roy