Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

06 July 2022


Alisa_Smith, becky, Lionel_Wolberger, Matthew_Atkinson, MichaelC, mike_beganyi, Roy, ToddL
David_Fazio, Nadine_Sienel, Niklas_Egger

Meeting minutes

<Matthew_Atkinson> presetn+

Agenda Review & Announcements

janina: synchronization a11y user requirements (SAUR) is published waiting for messaging

janina: Remote meetings a11y note is out for cfc; there is much support but there is one objection - to be discussed further by chairs. All discussion is on list; CfC is open through Friday, July 8 midnight Boston time

New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22

Service Workers WG charter

roy: two new charters and 1 workshop to discuss

<Roy> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/sw-2022.html

roy: low level API so I don't believe there are any relevant issues for this group; this is a service between the web service layers and the application.

janina: believe we can pass on this one, any comments from others? We probably don't need a liason statement

Chinese Web Interest Group Charter

Matthew_Atkinson: agree it is very low level. no action

<Roy> https://w3c.github.io/chinese-ig-charter/charter-2022.html

Roy: an interest group launched in China to increase participation in web development; interested in accessibility and mention in charter.

janina: happy to have more people interested in accessibility; Mini apps is a good example of how we might work together; Any concerns from anyone?

Workshop on immersive worlds on the web

no other comments - will accept

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/2022/04/immersive-worlds-workshop/

janina: is this the group we have already had a workshop with - folks out of Lisbon?

janina: Shadi had set up something with those folks before he left w3c; we are generally kept in the loop for those, this sounds different

roy: workshop wants to enhance environment to enhance immersive works - integrate user agents, patterns, and accessibility.

roy: a11y wants to include topic of how to may immersive worlds more inclusive

janina: RQTF would probably be interested, please forward to list; all are welcome to participate and submit proposals

A11y Review Comment Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

MichaelC: 1 comment

Add linkage between attributes and HTML-AAM

<MichaelC> - comment: https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/8055

<MichaelC> - tracking: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-review/issues/127

<Lionel_Wolberger> * Lionel says to all abashed, I'll take my tardy slip

MichaelC: believe this is specific to ARIA and I can raise with that group

janina: is there overlap with Adapt group?

MichaelC: this is about attributes so mechanism would be the same for adapt

janina: adapt will be asking for attribute(s); agree with Michael that we just need to flag to ARIA group; no need for APA to track

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

Core-AAM 1.2

<MichaelC> - request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/33

<MichaelC> - draft: https://w3c.github.io/core-aam/

MichaelC: Core-AAM 1.2 horizontal review request; assume we can say no need to review

janina: agree, we trust ARIA group review

no further input from group

Ethical Principles for Web Machine Learning

<MichaelC> - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Ethical_Principles_for_Web_Machine_Learning

<MichaelC> - tr: https://www.w3.org/TR/webmachinelearning-ethics/

MichaelC: ethical principles for web machine learning; several people participated in pre-publication development of document; Is an interesting read but I don't think we need to review

janina: I suspect there are several folks who will review, myself included;

Matthew_Atkinson: I think there are accessibility implications.

MichaelC: clarifies - are a11y implication in machine learning or the ethical principles?

Matthew_Atkinson: seems related to a11y and that we might want to review but do appreciate that it isn't technical a11y

janina: I think RQTF is better suited to review this one - they can dig deeper into items than we can on this call

Lionel_Wolberger: I agree RQTF is a great group to incubate topics within

MichaelC: I encourage everyone to read/review. APA was asked to review - are there additional ethical principles to avoid a11y holes?

janina: I support people reading this document

janina: if you have comments post to the APA list but will ask RQTF for deeper review

janina: may want feedback/review from Jutta T.

MichaelC: I will mark this as active and move to RQTF

Multi-Screen Window Placement

<MichaelC> - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement

<MichaelC> - tr: https://www.w3.org/TR/window-placement/

MichaelC: multi-screen window placement

MichaelC: has api to allow you to position web content in a particular window on a different screen

MichaelC: could be highly technical or an issue for a11y

janina: it could be helpful - could have one screen magnified if needed;

MichaelC: spec provides way to get info about screens in use; probably worth a look by someone who is versed in low vision

Fredrik: I will look at it

<Lionel_Wolberger> * Lionel to all, no IRC issues here

ACTION: Fredrik to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2327 - Review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/multi-screen_window_placement due 1 month [on Fredrik Fischer - due 2022-07-13].

mike_beganyi: I can look at it as well

ACTION: Mike_beganyi to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month

<trackbot> Error finding 'Mike_beganyi'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.

ACTION: beganyi to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2328 - Review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/wai/apa/wiki/multi-screen_window_placement due 1 month [on Mike Beganyi - due 2022-07-13].

RequestIdleCallback() Cooperative Scheduling of Background Tasks

<MichaelC> - tracking: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/RequestIdleCallback()_Cooperative_Scheduling_of_Background_Tasks

<MichaelC> - tr: https://www.w3.org/TR/requestidlecallback/

MichaelC: request idle callback scheduling background tasks - don't believe we need to review (reads abstract)

MichaelC: relates to media but believe it is low level

fredrik: people writing collaborative tools requirements may want to review; one of the main issues with AT and collaborative tools is overlap

MichaelC: this doc. is intended to avoid issues due to processing overload

MichaelC: assuming that we just need to notify RQTF and CAUR (collaborative) group

Dangling Spec Review Cleanup: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Category:Spec_Review_Assigned

MiniApp Manifest

<MichaelC> - request: https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/28

<MichaelC> - tr: https://www.w3.org/TR/miniapp-manifest/

<Roy> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/issues/49

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/miniapp-manifest/#accessibility-considerations

roy: I have reviewed; they offered self check for a11y and added an a11y considerations section that looks good

janina: I will also review the accessibility considerations section

MichaelC: will leave open until Janina reviews

MiniApp lifecycle

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/miniapp-lifecycle/

<Roy> https://github.com/w3c/a11y-request/issues/27

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/TR/miniapp-lifecycle/#accessibility-considerations

roy: I reviewed this - it is low level spec. related to lifecycle items; there is an accessibility considerations section but don't believe it is needed

janina: believe we can sign off;

Task Force & Deliverables Updates


janina: believe we will recommend moving CR request forward at next meeting; expect a CfC coming soon; with luck we will publish on the anniversary of the US ADA

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

janina: asks the group - any actions to update?

crickets - no comments

Other Business

janina: will cover TPAC here; still working on getting emails out to other group chairs to schedule meetings

janina: TPAC registration page is open; very good hotel rates for a lengthy periods; APA will be busy at TPAC

Be Done

Summary of action items

  1. Fredrik to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month
  2. Mike_beganyi to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month
  3. beganyi to review multiple screens https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Multi-Screen_Window_Placement due 1 month
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Maybe present: Fredrik, janina