W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

24 February 2022

Attendees

Present
Addison, Atsushi, Bert, Eemeli, JcK, Richard
Regrets
-
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
atsushi

Meeting minutes

<addison> preset+ Fuqiao

Agenda Review

Action Items

<addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

addison: 925?

ACTION: richard: find outstanding PRs for string-meta and merge as appropriate

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1122 - Find outstanding prs for string-meta and merge as appropriate [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-03-03].

richard: please assign an action for checking which PR for string-meta

addison: spec-dev?

addison: 1017, will work on next week
… 1094, in agenda
… 1103, about explainer, in agenda
… 1109, not seen any action from anyone, need to do
… 1115, need to investigage
… 1118, canvas-format-text, xfq?

xfq: not yet get details

addison: will back to provide details, as in action text
… 1120, not in agenda, will be next week
… 1121, urlpattern, will do

Info Share

addison: timezone (DST) will come soon
… as in agenda
… reapprove current model?

richard: watching progress on noto nastaliq and Kashmiri
… currently, new version of font is released
… lang tag ks
… released with one bug, one character is assigned as non-connected form
… one example for importance of lang tag

addison: importance of lang tag is usually mentioned with CJK difference, but this could be an additional one

bert: in font file

[richard shares an example with screen sharing]

RADAR Review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

addison: no new incoming request

addison: secure payment confirmation, discussed to submit last week
… bert, any on NAUR?

bert: might mention one on accent, but seems not so important

addison: wot things description, pending reviews last week, not moved these into repository yet

addison: CSS variables, not yet opened review issues

addison: for awaiting comment resolution, if you have any update, please review these
… please agenda+ if any update

Time Change?

addison: time change on DST
… generally keeping this meeting at the same time as London time zone
… for US, time will change for couple of weeks

eemeli: in finland, the same as London
… one meeting immediately after this also follows Europian, so no issue

String-Meta Explainer

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/blob/gh-pages/explainers/string-meta-explainer.md

bert: title and incompleted sections, @@@

richard: started putting insertion markups
… suggest to further rearrangement of contents
… what solutions is a good followup, but all of the rest from background, to fill up document
… ECMA one
… xxx would be one example to soleve, etc.

richard: couple of other things, not clear why it's relevant here, metadata and base direction
… isolation is not from base direction

addison: if I have document, and data value, if I want to bidi isolation, need base direction

richard: not asking for isolation

addison: not generally in text

[lost]

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arabic/#direction

[discussion on isolation and directon metadata]

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arabic/kashmiri#direction

richard: good to have some examples, not linking

addison: not to include in explainers
… collapsing a bit

richard: to raise message, there needs at least one example
… fine even if no

[related on a11y feature]

[hyphenation and spacing]

addison: should I tidy up and tag?

bert: the text mentions an "appendix" but there is none.?

xfq: looks like an empty sections

WOT Thing Description Review

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending+label%3As%3Awot-thing-description

addison: last time considering on these issues

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1465

addison: looking at 1465, and skipped from here

ACTION: richard: look at pending issue 1465

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1123 - Look at pending issue 1465 [on Richard Ishida - due 2022-03-03].

richard: supposed to do, any action was assigned for this?

addison: two comment here, provide metadata and recommending lang tag but not direction

richard: we don't recommend lang tag, but recommend metadata
… this huristic means from language

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1466

addison: 1466, no definition on well-formed lang tag

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1467

richard: in glossary, linked terms related to these

addison: 1467 is on no metadata

xfq: why they didn't use?

addison: no idea
… we did discussion in TPAC some years ago

addison: any objection on saying that

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1468

addison: 1468

richard: last paragraph says, fr

addison: that's another item on localizable data
… some has large set, some might small

addison: to supply a series of comment on this area?
… expand comments

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1469

addison: 1469, provide link of documentation but without language

xfq: like href lang?

addison: something
… this is a physical link to doc, with a multiple languages

Jck: ...

addison: hardcoaded link of user documents

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1470

addison: 1470, editorial one

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1471

addison: 1471, did talk last time
… json pointer in uri

richard: last time, discussed on uri for no mention on unicode range

addison: did see Nigel's comment to address things?

richard: for normatively reference, redefine could be one option

addison: add these to glossary?

<addison> https://github.com/w3c/imsc-hrm/pull/42#discussion_r811349145

[discussion on normative and non-rec-track]

Summary of action items

  1. richard: find outstanding PRs for string-meta and merge as appropriate
  2. richard: look at pending issue 1465
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