W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

11 November 2021

Attendees

Present
addison, Atsushi, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard
Regrets
Fátima, JcK
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison, xfq

Meeting minutes

<addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference

Agenda Review

Action Items

<addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

addison: 1034, should we add that to the agenda?

<addison> action-1092?

<trackbot> action-1092: Addison Phillips to File review approving payment request text plus personal comment on 'may' -- due 2021-11-11 -- OPEN

<addison> close action-1092

<trackbot> Closed action-1092.

addison: did 1092

<addison> action-1094?

<trackbot> action-1094: Addison Phillips to Start conversation with ecma-402 et al about webidl work -- due 2021-11-11 -- OPEN

addison: did 1094
… sent an email
… need to follow up
… until they reply

Info Share

<addison> xfq: process 2021, one thing plh mentioned is cleaning TR docs

<addison> ... there is a separate note track, should republish our WDs as DRAFT-NOTE

r12a: no need for an action item, we can do it when we @@

addison: what's the status of specdev? note or draft?

r12a: draft

<atsushi> `DNOTE`

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

addison: no incoming requests
… moving IFT to awaiting comment resolution

Close User-Timing HR issue

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2021Nov/0016.html

https://github.com/w3c/user-timing/issues/80

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/1392

atsushi: they updated the spec
… I think we can close this

addison: looks good to me
… any objection?

[silence]

addison: I'm going to move it to Completed

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/156

xfq: ^ we moved Performance Timeline to Completed
… can we close this issue?

r12a: this should have been closed when we moved it to Completed

addison: i thought he was looking at the needs-resolution issues

r12a: I'll close it

EPUB

https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/issues/1885

https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/pull/1899/files

xfq: raised an issue ^^
… about their their file name restrictions
… might prevent the use of emoji

https://pr-preview.s3.amazonaws.com/w3c/epub-specs/1899/da13601...d1c5ad3.html#sec-container-filenames

xfq: added some text

r12a: there's a whole bunch of variation selectors

addison: those are not super common used

r12a: Ideographic Variation Selectors

https://github.com/w3c/epub-specs/pull/1899

addison: i could make a case for almost all of them being a problem if you use it in a file name
… we have one block they've excluded because they though they used to be deprecated
… If there is a problem with the system, then we need to fix the reading system or operating system

r12a: language tags should be excluded
… there are also Ideographic Variation Selectors

addison: I just made a file that contains flag emoji and variation selectors
… at least on Windows there's no restrictions

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=Tags

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=Variation_selectors_supplement

addison: excluding unassigned characters with no block assignment is a no-no
… maybe exclude U+E0001 and U+E007F
… but i don't think file systems care about them
… they're just a bad idea

xfq: I'll comment

awaiting comment resolution: how to handle

addison: previously i've gone through the items awaiting comment resolution
… to see the open issues and made a list
… i feel that it's not effective process

r12a: partly because we need advanced notice of what will be discussed during the telecon

addison: i can go back and redo it and make a list of issues
… will that be effective?
… we would need to pre-read
… if i see items that can be closed, i'll close and send an email to the list
… assuming we go through and clean up our backlog
… how do we want to handle this going forward?

r12a: we had a shepherd
… i keep coming across issues you raised, addison, and i would need you to decide whether you're satisfied with that issue

addison: if the item has an owner then at least that owner can come and say can we close that issue

addison: a lot of them have owners

r12a: @@

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/#

ACTION: richard: go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs

addison: will reply to Wendy

AOB?

ACTION: richard to go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs

ACTION: r12a to go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1095 - Go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-11-18].

Summary of action items

  1. richard: go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs
  2. richard to go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs
  3. r12a to go through all issues that are needs-resolution and compare to awaiting comment resolution and create list of unassigned specs
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 159 (Fri Nov 5 17:37:14 2021 UTC).

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