Meeting minutes
agenda
Sebastian: are there any more agenda items for today?
… any guests or new members in the call today?
… Farshid is now invited expert due to change in status
Sebastian: review the minutes
McCool: what is the schedule for Netzo on Thursday?
Kaz: it was changed
Sebastian: reviewing Open Day schedule for TPAC
McCool: there are updates on the schedule we need to discuss later
Sebastian: chartering discussion, moving marketing to enable IG & CG to participate
Sebastian: review discussion about moving other activities into IG/CG
McCool: if it's not rec track, we should consider opening it up
Sebastian: any more comments, any objections to approve?
… no objections, good to publish
W3C service outage recovered
Sebastian: all the services recovered and the minutes from yesterday's meeting are regenerated.
Kaz: sorry about the inconvenience, and thanks a lot for your note, Ege.
DIoT Workshop
Sebastian: is the DIoT workshop cancelled?
Cristiano: there wasn't enough interest, so we cancelled it
iot tech expo report out
Kaz: WoT was specifically mentioned as an interoperability technology
… there will be a dedicated interest group to follow up
… there was good participation across various industry groups and interests
TPAC guests
Sebastian: discussion in the Chairs call to update the events section with the upcoming Open Day and promote our guest participants Netzo, etc.
Sebastian: can we please set up a website update and a twitter announcement?
Daniel: I just need the schedule
McCool: still waiting for more confirmations, but definitely have Takenaka, Netzo, and Echonet
McCool: we should announce the ones we have confirmed, including the schedule
Kaz: guests should contact the Chairs at <team-wot@w3.org>
McCool: how should we handle the invitation and avoid spam?
McCool: what about a form?
… the right way would be a contact form
Ege: will make a Google form to collect the email and notify back
Kaz: we could use a mailto: link
McCool: that might invite spam though
Daniel: we could put the link to the form on the web page and other places
Sebastian: ok, dape and ege will handle it
<Ege> https://
WoT Japanese CG update
Mizushima: there are some contacts, I will give a detailed update on the 26th
open day guests, Netzo and Takenaka
Sebastian: Takenaka is in building management
testing calls
Sebastian: looking for a volunteer to lead the testing calls
Ege: I have volunteered to start after TPAC
TPAC schedule
Sebastian: review the wiki page
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Sebastian: had the first F2F meeting on discovery yesterday
… review tomorrow's agenda on TD and bindings
Sebastian: Monday open day presentation by Takenaka
McCool: most likely we will only have Takenaka on the 11th
Sebastian: Carsten says the 28th will be less rushed
McCool: the 11th seems too early for T2TRG, should go for the 28th
Sebastian: moving the content to the 28th on the schedule
Sebastian: second open day on Thursday with 3 presentations: Echonet, Spatial Data, and Netzo
… then a one week break
… 26th, 27th, 28th
… discussion on architecture and profiles
Sebastian: what about security?
McCool: we need to extend the 28th by one hour and add a 30 minute security update
Sebastian: can we have the security discussion on Monday
McCool: it would conflict with Open Day
Sebastian: we will shift some slots around and try to freeze the schedule ASAP
… review next week
McCool: SDW hasn't confirmed, but we could use the 14th
Kaz: Can we add the MiniApps discussion to the Use Case day?
McCool: we need to add break time to the agenda
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Sebastian: any more items on TPAC?
Sebastian: please register for TPAC
Sebastian: also remember the AC
any news from ITU-T?
McCool: seems like we have an agreement for a meeting but not confirmed yet
… will nail down soon
liaison meetings
Sebastian: APA is deferred
… OPC-UA is planned for October 28th
charter discussions
Sebastian: passed IG charter to W3C management
Kaz: there is some feedback already
… 3 editorial points, mm will cover
… will follow up after the editorial updates
McCool: can do the editorial work by the charter meeting on the 28th
Sebastian: let's use the chairs call to review
McCool: the WG is a bigger job; there will be new topics and new deliverables
… collecting new topics for the discussion, additional profiles and bindings?
<sebastian> https://
Sebastian: use this issue for the WG charter items
Smart Cities
Sebastian: official report is available
Kaz: update the draft charter based on this report
… please all respond to the doodle poll to set a meeting slot
Sebastian: is there a candidate to chair the Smart City group?
Kaz: there is one candidate, looking for another
testing needed for CR
Sebastian: we need test results for all of the specified features with implementation reports
… We have TD, also need Architecture, Profile, and Discovery
Lagally: Architecture will not have an implementation report of its own
McCool: Architecture report could be a summary report from the others, and there may be some assertions to implement in the Architecture spec.
McCool: TD still needs a little work
… need to update implementation descriptions
… need to create an issue to drive
… everything for Architecture should already be in the TD spec
Sebastian: what about Profiles and Discovery
McCool: Toumura-san has created a document for Discovery
… next we need to create a test suite
… nothing yet on Profiles, will definitely have assertions but may be all manual assertions
Lagally: need to discuss some details still on the next call
McCool: we need to ask if everything is already in the TD spec and what additional tests will be needed for device behavior
Sebastian: profile is a subset of TD with additional constraints so may be combine profile in TD
McCool: but can't assume the current tests will cover profiles
McCool: there are more rules that will need more tests
… also need to look at TM testing
Lagally: profile has additional behaviors like error reporting
McCool: what parts of the additional behaviors need TD tests?
Sebastian: time check
Kaz: we need to think about content across all of our documents, what goes in which in order to avoid possible confusion and overlap between specs and testing effort.
McCool: let's discuss in the editors call
Lagally: make sure we get everyone invited
Sebastian: any other business?
Ege: we do need testing for profiles, don't underestimate
Ege: need to get out invitations for TPAC
McCool: will do that now
McCool: testing call at 10 mins after the hour
Sebastian: adjourned and will keep the Webex open
<kaz> [main call adjourned; Plugfst/Test call in 5 mins]