<Rain> scribe: kirkwood
Rain: don’t have a lot of people
today
... won’t make big decisions but have quite few attendees
<JohnRochford> peachy
Rain: mental health checkin, has been on a hiatus back on Monday
Rachael: anyone who can review articles, highly encourage people to
Rain: would a member put anouncement to post in community group
Rachael: will try to posting anouncemnt to community group to explain lit review and invite to contribute
<Rachael> Lit Review Instructions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XWmikm5Ein5CQ02knEJ5iGzO1YJMilTMBJ_aLVCTzs0/edit?usp=sharing
<Rachael> Lit Review form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1HixNzZUXWiMBfyPjlZj0COtBkI3h1uvlxTFGIzAVngk/edit
Jennie: question about the form? using a web form
Rain: Rachael posted form in minutes
Rachael: uses standard components from google and running a quick check
Jennie: will run tomorrow with JAWS and AVDA
Rain: other aspects of
accessibility it looks pretty good
... APA has requested prior to TPAC draft a work statement for
mental health module.
... thats all on mental health
Rain: think David is not
available right now. APA has called a few things to our
attention on github
... three things to review personalization of content, health
support and tools
<Rain> APA personalization is asking for help with reviewing these documents:
<Rain> Content: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/481b5425cd8c8c40ef72ae13161d84fb7ec73972/content/index.html
<Rain> Help and Support: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/481b5425cd8c8c40ef72ae13161d84fb7ec73972/help/index.html
<Rain> Tools: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/481b5425cd8c8c40ef72ae13161d84fb7ec73972/tools/index.html
Rain: APA asking for hlep to
review these 3 items
... will reply to David and John Foltiot
... how does 2 weeks sound?
Jennie: 2 weeks makes it more likely to complete to be realistic
Rain: I’ll ask David and JF that we may need more time
Jennie: if we do decide might be
helpful to divide and concur
... technical and some UX
Rain: i’ll mention David JF
... I will create a google doc? but will connect with them on
expectation and then create google doc to get started
Rain: update on community
group
... has a lot of interested members, we have had 3.5
meetings
... we have had some great insights about builiding a stronger
community relationships
... based on initial meetings have gone asked about merging
groups to have a meeting in different time zones
... 1 meeting 4 times a month 2 groups to accomodate time
zones
... still meet two times a month.
... response has been positive not sufficient number
<JohnRochford> Appeal to egos.
Rain: want thoughts about a
community chair
... still missing people who need sufficient support who are
self advocats
... like to see those people who have that voice
... mental health as well need, like to see a broader range of
lived experiences
... get feedback on content usable
<JohnRochford> +1
Jennie: good job Rain, think its great you are scaling back on task list
<JohnRochford> +1
Jennie: how do you invision role
of chair?
... those who work insupported employment, feedback
presentation to those in community group
<JohnRochford> +1
<JohnRochford> Jennie is a genius.
Jennie: if community group could put presentation together that could be reviewed and provide to some community groups to present and share
<Jennie> * Aw shucks @JohnRochford - you are too kind
Rain: have asked persons to share
and have gotten good responses
... who we looking for from the chair? Jennie was asking.
hoping for someone in community
Jennie: what kind of supports, make sure that someone who cochairs
<JohnRochford> What's the latest with Accessible Authentication?
<JohnRochford> What's the latest with Accessible Authentication?
Rain: i agree
Rachael: think agreed passed AA and AAA?
Rain: we did pass agreement to move forward with that but stuck on language of two
<JohnRochford> What does "passed" mean?
Rain: some concerns an AGWG
<JohnRochford> Rationale for removing it from A?
Rain: AA does not give exception
for captcha
... it’s not being removed from A i think
Rachael: can try moving to A AA, we can try an make an arfument to make it A
Rochford: I would like it to be A if it goes to AAA may as well stop working on it
Rain: we are not going to get
level we want into AA
... gives us a stronger foundation for WCAG 3 and truly doument
in normative text
... if we don’t do it, wouldn’t demonstrate blocking, and why
chose to continue working on it,
Rachael: it was best we could get to not ideal
Rochford: since AAA does mean AA is by the wayside
Rain: here is doc that Rachael moved into github what Rachael ended up working into the pull request
<Rachael> Here is the pull request: https://github.com/w3c/wcag/pull/2042/files if that helps
<Rain> Document that reflects what we worked on for the text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ADcHY2IIENkSAJ1VLynK5BY0WifSiGOZLx-GYKVrLMc/edit#heading=h.xddkl2r92h9l
Rain: it has two level 1
headings, don’t bother with historical in second level 1
heading
... did have to make a few changes because of differences in
structure
<Rain> Document that reflects what we worked on for the text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ADcHY2IIENkSAJ1VLynK5BY0WifSiGOZLx-GYKVrLMc/edit#heading=h.xddkl2r92h9l
<Rachael> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/guidelines/22/
<Rachael> https://w3c.github.io/wcag/guidelines/22/#accessible-authentication
Rachael: it did get approved, one accesible authentication draft, second was direct link
Rain: Rochford do you have
thoughts to return to
... TPAC planning
Rain: on TPAC planning Jennie know needed time on working with COGA.
Jennie: have taken info from COGA
meetings and put into TP
... TPAC folder
... meeting with alvbert, putting info on slide, and adding to
all current draft slides
Rain: panel for content usable on
hold until next week when Lisa is back
... we have breakout sessions depending on Janina getting back
next week to do schedule
... mobile task force asking to meet probably outside of TPAC
meeting some time toward end of October
<JohnRochford> I may be interested in meeting with the Mobile TF.
Rain: want to get ownership of join sessions, make sure agenda works out
<Rain> Joint meetings: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/TPAC_2021_initial_planning#Joint_Meetings_.26_Agendas
Rain: be there, work with represenative, put together slides and meeting itself
<JohnRochford> I may be interested in meeting with the Mobile TF.
Rain: volunteeering?
<JohnRochford> No.
<JohnRochford> Participate.
Rain: JR volunteer to
participate
... personalization, APA, internationalization, research
questions
... research incluive languag in research
... meeting with Silver
... ACT is another how end user testin and AI
Julie: research questions task force, can we ask about clear language, words and characters, could you explain more about that?
Rain: want to find out what to bring to them and how to bring to them
Julie: very interested in particpate in session, happy to support it
Rain: subgroup checkin
items
... any clear language updates
Julie: we had small meeting on
Tuesday
... John shared a lot of research papers
... trying to find granular detiails and bigger issue, why
using Clear language that in context of plain language why not
calling it plain language
<JohnRochford> Yes, I have something to share: Julie is so organized I asked her what is wrong with her.
<Jennie> I have thoughts about Julie's questions but want to wait until John goes first
Julie: trying to catch up
<JohnRochford> I have nothing to add to Julie's report.
Julie: want to make it clear
Jennie: having partipated in AG
discussion about this topic and state of Minnesota. and how it
would work. Plain language is a gov’t definition
... the 1500 word piece i am also unsure, with each agency
unsure myself
Julie: want to find clear link to research
<JohnRochford> Must depart for my next meeting.
Rain: guardianship?
Jennie: might be able to find
rearch in COGA that might be the place to find it 1500
words
... guardianship no update
... images hopefully designer will know tomrrow and let her
know about TPAC schedule
Rain: table item 7
... don’t have too much time to dig into it, both from
community group and our group, have taken a look at some of the
articles
... Lisa to formalize response by end of this week?
... will ask Lisa to put in a shared place for us to contribute
to
... anything else?
... we have got through critical bits, thank yuou Julie for
taking it on
<Rain> RRSAgent: make minutes
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