W3C

– DRAFT –
WAI Coordination Call Teleconference

08 September 2021

Attendees

Present
becky, brentb, ChrisLoiselle, George, George_, jamesn, janina, janina_, jeanne, Joshue, Judy, kathyeng, Katie_Haritos-Shea, kim_patch, Shawn(first_part), stevelee, tzviya
Regrets
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Chair
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Scribe
kathyeng

Meeting minutes

FYI next week is annual staff "Geek Week"; reduced availability for regular meetings

judy: reminder once a year, W3C staff have option to focus on a project, project planning, writing
… team contact may be less available than usual

janina: publication moratorium?

judy: yes

Auto-Timestamping W3C Documents?

judy: janina sent context earlier

janina: date documents for major updates

judy: additional context - technical reports are date stamped. is it wiki pages that have no date?

janina: COGA work statement had been updated

judy: that is a wiki page and should have a footer that forces time stamp, but see copyright 2018 but no date stamp
… could be the last redesign may have suppressed date stamp

janina: would like every page to have a date stamp. Would be useful over time.

judy: a site update may update date on each page. May not be good.

janina: would be better than not having a date at all

<Zakim> Judy, you wanted to ask permission for live transcript

jeanne: would prefer to avoid machine updates. Has been problematic in github when docs get a date refreshed when no changes made.

james: agree to avoid machine updates. Aria practices have no date indication.

judy: will follow up with Shawn

Scheduling WAI-Wide Glossary conversation during TPAC

FYI Publishing Open House https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-cc/2021Sep/0000.html

george: can send invitation for Sept 4
… will have speakers from business, community, working group to update on publishing at W3C.
… publishing and document accessibility interest. all publishing content

janina: videos?

george: embedded videos are in scope. Sync'd media also in scope. If not embedded, maybe not in scope.

judy: has this open house been effective to give people an informal check in?

george: this is the second time. first time we surveyed, had many misunderstandings and confusion. Accessibility was very confused.
… putting videos up in advance this time. very active in higher ed.

judy: are other groups struggling with energy/morale?

george: project Gutenberg started in the 80s. open educational resources mandated by states are flying under radar of accessibility.

judy: are groups struggling with participation?

james: it's hard making progress when everyone has many jobs and hats and finding time for optional work

judy: a refresh function is ordinarily part of a conference. would it help for each group to talk about what you're doing?

james: I don't think so

<Judy> [JB why Pubs are necessary for Publishing]

jeanne: another online meeting would not help.

<Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to say that the problems getting task force work approved by main group. Part of the problem may be the lack of bar conversations

george: trying to recruit and nurture people who come to W3C community. Not aware of irc, zakim, how to get involved. Need some younger people in WGs who are energetic.

judy: if I did a written update on WAI and how to get involved, maybe a blog, would something written help?

kim: husband's company sent chocolate. What about a virtual pub with real beer?

<Judy> [JB appreciates the suggestion!]

<jeanne> -1 too many of those, too.

kim: something informal, and maybe interest younger folks

janina: can interns be in wg?

judy: appreciate ideas

Publication announcements https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts

<janina> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/main/saur/

janina: APA has CFC out. looks promising. Hope for fpwd in late Sept.
… if video and audio are out of sync, very problematic

janina: we have scheduled joint meeting with timed text
… hoping to publish week after next.

judy: give Shawn at least normal lead time to review announcements

janina: Personalization Task Force in CR by end of month. Announcements in process.
… one issue remaining with Internationalization. They meet with us on Monday.

george: User experience guide will wait until after moratorium.
… announcements still pending

judy: are you updating announcement page?

janina: yes, with Josh

Any new documents in your WG or TFs to let other WAI WGs or TFs know about?

james: not new but talking with SVG. They seem to be in agreement.
… to take over SVG Accessibility API Mapping (AAM)

george: announcements page also for CG reports?

janina: it's on our joint agenda for TPAC. got a lot of questions.

judy: when CGs were established about 8 years ago, one caveat is not to assign staff time. Over time, exceptions made to provide an essential bridging function.
… something lightweight/informative could go on announcements. Chat with Shawn.

janina: how to normatively reference registry in W3c spec?

george: this is a WG issue and good question.

judy: there may have been a process change.
… will ask Ralph

TPAC accessibility question(s) carry over from last year

judy: sounds like planning for TPAC is coming along. Opportunity to propose sessions for the next few weeks.
… feedback on virtual TPAC from last year. Heard the format was confusing, help section hard to find. Other feedback?

judy: yes

<jeanne> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/SessionIdeas

becky: add it to the wiki table, which is difficult

becky: I've only been doing breakout meetings. Don't think format is different.

judy: sounds good josh, coordinate with Michael?

judy: TPAC help issue, people didn't see it as I recall.

becky: where is value of checking all the CGs, tedious to check.

judy: felipe had a data scrape to help monitor

becky: yes, helpful, but where's follow up? what is purpose in monitoring?

judy: threshold case - in CG brewing a technical standard that may impact accessibility. This is outside of horizontal review requirement so no feedback on accessibility.

janina: sometimes no additional follow up and that may be the breakdown

becky: going through charter would get the review. are you saying to get to them sooner?

judy: yes, before mature substantially.

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