<scribe> scribe: kirkwood
LS: start with orientation?
Rain: yes
<Jennie> Scribe page is updated with John K for today, me for next week.
Rain: morning everyone, new member Julie introduced
JR: Julie Rawe new member, work for Understood, gave feedback on draft, eager to help
LS: help pople find their way around talking about an orientation call and setting one up
Julia Raw: that would be great
Rain: i will send introduction
following meeting to setup call for orientation
... Albert has been working on orienation document, will
include him in that thread
Welcome Julie
<LisaSeemanKest_> (keep intos breif - we have a big agenda!
Jennie: working on update, accessibility analyst in accessbility, assistive reseach and all types of digital accessibiliy
Jennia: updates on images subgroup
Jennie continues to update content usable, and work with John K on images
Jennie: working on font samples,
Rain will be sending out display examples
... setup with designs
<Rain> kirkwood: Jennie covered guardianship and images work
Rain: moving down list to Steve:
SteveLee: working for W3C a
developer at heart with editorial experience
... involoved with cognitive disabilty through work, design
guide would be very useful interactive web reource have been
working on that part of WAI websit hopefully
... having talked with Shawn and Heather they are happy to go
ahead with left hand naviagtion
Rain: fantastic news
Roy; from China, work as team contact, support work for task force, include publication and other logistics
Rain: want to check in on email addresses
Roy: no feedback at this time
Thank you Roy
Rachael: introducing herself, co
shair of AGWG work at library of congress of US, assistin
mental health subgroup, meeting Monday on how to use new form
to make review possible for mental health subgroup
... if you could look at mental health subgroup and look at
items it would behelpful
LS: can you put link in IRC for where people can find list for research to review?
RM: I will put it in as soon as i can find it
LS: it would be good for people
to read over weekend
... I am cofacilitator with Rain, facilitating since founding,
accessiblity for many years, and auhor of ARIA states/roles
document
RM: one action item to sheck in
with you Lisa
... solution neutral list of concerns
... as soon as possible shorlly after meeting
<Rachael> This link of research to review is at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XWmikm5Ein5CQ02knEJ5iGzO1YJMilTMBJ_aLVCTzs0/edit#heading=h.bc4vqyklmnk0 I am still cleaning it up
LS: ok, reviewed Help for Silver today
<Rachael> The link to the form is at https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeGrqJKV7RluoYrKHJN8cBJH3w9sDx7lAlAhcV0BeBTUVybkw/viewform
Rain: introducing, interact with
Understood, relatively new cofacilitator
... working on TPAC planning will get to it shortly
... this is one want to keep time boxed, my comment on common
objects challenge
... started with authentication flows and defining what is
acceptable the word ‘common objects’ stood out
... long history after hearing COGA task force as well as AGWG
and research within google and security teams and privacy with
where technology is tried to revise language maybe have a AA
and AAA split per Alistari
... uploading is a cognitive user test
JRawe: is there a corelation between common object and common word
Rain: no
... thinking signs and chairs etc.
Jennie: looking for documents for barriers that i’m looking for, or another method is available
Rain: tried that captcha would not be available at all
Jenni: individual could have an out option
Jennie: maybe an option could be available
Rain: AAA have to be something else
Rachael: don’t have more righ now
Rain: we are hitting up against
international laws
... ask anyone who has interest in this and concerned AA AAA
split to solve
... by end of weekend send comment in an email deadline end of
weekend to resolve
LS: seems random of AA and AAA
doesn’t seem to be based on anything, makes no sense to
me
... doesn’t make sense to me that legal requirment to identify
common objects anywhere
... they must have different options
... there are so many differnt ways to conform
+1 to Lisa;s point
Rain: two types of cognitive
function test are avail at this time.
... having going through this it has taken lots of work
... differentiation between AA and AAA to provide those
options. Those resources that government has
LS: i question thatk, is google
login a way around it? i think that would conform, I am not a
robot check box is much better and easy
... two very cheap free way
Rain: i am not a robot checkbox goes into captcha if there is a hack attempt
<LisaSeemanKest_> sending a link in an email to click? why is that not ok?
RM: reality is this is at go in
or not go in point
... if we put it in AAA need to make to go in, with exceptions
feel might go in
if AAA could be put in without exceptions
scribe: makes sense me to go in 2.3 when supported
RM: why AA AAA is in best interest of language
Rain: based on research it will not get through in AA without exceptions
LS: if case better to get
something rather then nothing
... needs to be obvious that AA contais full blocks without
exceptions
... we then need to be aware of total blocks language would
need to be there
Rain: followup with email
regarding this
... please sign up for scribe
Rain: go into TPAC planning Jennie doesn’t have updates how to work with COGA draft outline, just need more hours in day
<Rachael> +1 to more waking hours in the day!
Rain: content usable panel, user needs specifictions do do have nice panel lisa, david fazio, john kirkwood
Lisa: 3 user need from content usable, need to focus on topics on how to structure panel conversation
Rain: we have in TPAC planning
with both APA and internationalization looking at mental health
research APA group might help, internationlization use cases
and cognitive use cases
... probably better with RQTF research question task force
rather than APA and internationlization directly
... other topics for separate joing meetings
:S: think something said for research groups, do need to meet would be good
LS: there commonality of needs with internationlization no reason to ge through small task force
+1 to meeting with wider APA think they need to know
LS: they need to know us
<stevelee_> +1
Ls: think that is really important as our parent group
JK: i think we should have a joint meeting with researh questions
RM: take on getting to know us APA to share with Yanina
LS: when do we need that
Rain: within the next week or two
will let Janina know about meeting with APA within 2
weeks
... send to me and i will craft a thorough, to setup a
meeting
<Rain> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/TPAC_2021_initial_planning
Rain: take a quick look at our
palnning page and let me know if one of these joing meeting
take wonership of
... three meetings confimed postiive work environment, silver,
and personalization
<LisaSeemanKest_> I need a few minites also for metadata
Rain: if anyone wants to take on making some slides,
Jennie: all meetings are one hour
<LisaSeemanKest_> I am doing personalization from coga side
Jennie: how to work with COGA don’t have times yet?
Rain: no don’t have times
yet
... don’t need to get mack to me now
... two weeks from now can prepare resources for these
meetings
LS: ISO reahed out should be
standard for meta data support for cognitive disabilites
... the answer is yes
... understanding what we’d like to have supported, the other
is how, third is taxonomy
... second two are technical
... p;ersonlization TF has a module that is similar
... are we saying in meta data what we want
... number free, discalcula, plain language, help you find the
content you need, if you need to know in easy to understand
language would want that, that is a kind of information
... it would be really usful to take a look at the first
section for what users need to be supported, from work you have
done, if it is omething that your users would like there
... how do you identify which is the content you go to
first
Jennie: this is exciting when do you need it
LS: for our meeting next
week
... not everything, have in ther so can take ti to them on
meeting on Monday its proprieatry info so can’t share
... ideally within a week. even if catiegory of what we see
coming
<LisaSeemanKest_> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TDPA3R1Y4hVn4Eq9NlRTZ_hg4cpd_8ZtpWoFiVuF_lk/edit#
Rain: we are at time
... next thursday is our first community goupr one on the 9th
and one on the 13th in EST evening, want to give a heads
up
... Understood event should email the TF
<Rain> RRSAgent: make minutes
thanks for doing minutes I can send to group if you want?
<LisaSeemanKest_> im on the help call (I think)
<Rain> kirkwood, yes, if you can send the minutes to the group, that would be perfect, thank you!
<LisaSeemanKest_> am i in the right place?
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