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Personalization Task Force Teleconference

TPAC planning: meeting owners preparing as per list, https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2021

Matthew_Atkinson: Some hiccoughs in pushing to the GitHack
… Do we want to draft in a seperate branch?

<sharon> https://raw.githack.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/gh-pages/talks/2021/tpac/index.html

Matthew_Atkinson: may need more of an introduction, as to "why" this is important

Lionel_Wolberger: Thanks to Matt
… who has the tea cup code?

LisaSeemanKest: I have it

Lionel_Wolberger: asks Lisa for link to source page

<LisaSeemanKest> https://mycult-5c18a.firebaseapp.com/

LisaSeemanKest: provides link, but believe it may be on our wiki page

Lionel_Wolberger: Matthew's slide deck is going to get visibility; I tried to get a financial institution interested; BBC is aware of our work, hoping to get them or others as implementors

Lionel_Wolberger: I think why section will be hard to get consensus upon; for TPAC believe Matthew will be "owner" of presentation; don't feel be need consensus on the why but really need a strong presentation;

Lionel_Wolberger: I may have a different presentation deck to recruit implementors

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: In Matt's deck, I don't see the big picture

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... this deck says we are applying attributes

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... another "win" is the ability to apply meta data at the element level

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... this is an important achievement, as previous attempts failed

<Zakim> janina, you wanted to comment on the why question

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We do have good general language for "why"

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... people are different, they ahve different needs

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... and different things communicate differently

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... we are facilitating meeting these diverse needs more precisely

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: TPAC 2020? Need 2021

<Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: Noted, everyone

<Zakim> Matthew_Atkinson, you wanted to discuss example in Ed's Draft

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Lisa do you have the video from 13 July

<Lionel_Wolberger> LisaSeemanKest: Yes, I see it in my zoom

<Lionel_Wolberger> Matthew_Atkinson: I see the pull request

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: We see some dialog on issue 1`44

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... Investigating whether we can go to CR with this still unresolved

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... we should have specific dates and time pretty soon. Make sure you reply to proposed dates

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: moving the module 1.0 presentation to a half day meeting in the second week

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... we will still keep the Wednesday breakout session as well, as it publicizes the spec (in CR) to the wider W3C

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... especially if we have examples

i18n issue #144 - https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/144 (Janina)

<Lionel_Wolberger> sharon: we see Judy put a comment.

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: More than just a comment. we now wait

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... labor day in the way...

issue #170 - https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/170 (JF)

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: 'prefers reduced motion' discussion

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... they are equating distraction with motion. but distraction is a far broader topic than motion

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... they are similar but not the same

Messaging template - https://www.w3.org/wiki/WAI/announcements

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts#Planning_Upcoming_Announcements

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: we need to get started drafting this

<Lionel_Wolberger> Roy: here is an example

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... suggest we start drafting in email

<Roy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cc/wiki/WAI_Announcement_Drafts#.5BTemplate.5D_Spec_XYZ_Announcements

<Lionel_Wolberger> sharon: The facilitators (sharon, lionel) will do a first pass and start drafting it

<JF> @Sharron & ALionel - are you aware of this: https://www.w3.org/Guide/manual-of-style/

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... we will do a first pass then share with the list

<Lionel_Wolberger> lionel thanks john for the style link

<janina> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Holidays

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Reminder that we are off next week, USA labor day

Unlabeled GitHub issues https://github.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/issues/

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: COGA Glossary is not labeled

<Lionel_Wolberger> LisaSeemanKest: This might be out of sync

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: We do point to the COGA glossary in Module 1.0

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: glossary would be a good label, as glossaries are a cross-W3C concern today

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: Confirming: there is a pointer in module 1.0

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: It seems we did this action

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: Moves to close the issue

<Lionel_Wolberger> +1

<sharon> +1 to close issue

<becky> +1

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: The final issue, reads:

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... An internationalization principle is that text should not be in attributes. Properties should be structured in a way not to use that design.

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... Issue #3

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: HTML is written in English

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel_Wolberger: Move to label it, 'action-required'

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: and let's take it up with Michael to close it

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: I disagree with the issue.

Action #89 - Update from JF editorial review of Modules 2.0 and 3.0

<Lionel_Wolberger> JF: I will begin with editorial changes

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: look for consistency

<Lionel_Wolberger> janina: Good work John on what you hjave done to date

<Lionel_Wolberger> Lionel: encouraging everybody to talk up Personalization and find a company to implemet

<Lionel_Wolberger> LisaSeemanKest: BBC's Jaime did a first implementation, we just didn't pass QA at the time

<Lionel_Wolberger> ... Gareth and Jamey are involved

<LisaSeemanKest> oh wow, what is he doing now?

<Lionel_Wolberger> LisaSeemanKest: They will know what's best content to put this on.