Meeting minutes
New Facilitators
Rachael: 2 new facilitators - Kathy and Rain. Welcome.
Kathy: Wanted to understand who needs to attend this meeting - does each facilitator need to attend?
Improving Coordination (dashboard) https://www.w3.org/wiki/WAI_Group_Coordination
Rachael: Only one is needed.
New time
Rachael: Have a couple of facilitators that are in different time zones - should we move this back to 9am or find a different time?
<Rachael> straw poll: Should we move back to 9 am, leave the time as now, or find a different time
<Chuck> +1 9am
<ChrisLoiselle> 9 works.
<Rain> +1 to findng a different time, but I can live with 9am if needed
9 works
<kathyeng> +1 9am
<shawn> I have a conflict most weeks at 9:00E. OK to do wihtout me. (/me doesn't mind not having a 7:00am meeting)
MichaelC: does it work well for you Rain?
MichaelC: May also want to do poll for alternate times - but for now move to 9am ET on Wednesdays
Improving Coordination (dashboard) https://www.w3.org/wiki/WAI_Group_Coordination
Rain: generally I would be attending and not Lisa
Rachael: We agree to try out dashboard which is in agenda item. How is that working? and what can we do to improve?
Chuck: So far, have not utilized it.
Rachael: Put AG action from COGA in to test it out. But I have not thought to check it and put it in my work flow. Thoughts?
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say watch list & listing
Shawn: Marked on watchlist so I can get an email when there is an edit. Did appreciate to have a place to put it. No sure if it is useful for COGA or not.
<shawn> EOWG also sent e-mail, so this was backup
MichaelC: Putting on watchlist is good for pull side. Need to address push side to get people in habit of putting things on this such as checking in around this meeting.
Rain: Michael said what I was thinking. From COGA side - not sure it would work for COGA as a whole but would work for me.
Shawn: There is a star to watch the page.
<Rain> keyboard shortcut control+option+w
Kim: When I click it - it does say it's been added.
Kim: does this send email?
MichaelC: There should be a way to configure what happens such as an email.
Rachael: Who is willing to be the person to remind us to use this?
Chuck: Happy to send out - just need to know when
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to fork topic into digest updates
<Rachael> Strawpoll: Will a reminder email help?
Either way
<Rain> Either way for me, too
MichaelC: First month or 2
<shawn> 0 (-1 to e-mail for me. OK if clear subject line, so I can ignore :-)
Chuck: Will send out every Monday. Will revisit at next coordination call and I will stop when we say stop.
<Rachael> Action to revisit reminder email next time
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MichaelC: 2nd suggestion is sending around weekly digests in our groups. Came up in discussion on what knowing leadership are up to - but also useful for groups. Not sure if weekly is appropriate. Maybe a couple of sentences.
MichaelC: Sounds like someone from each group.
Kim: A page would be helpful and see at a glance of what each page was doing. That shows updates- that would save time. Another idea is to CC people on minutes of group.
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to say +1 and not e-mail
Shawn: Without WAI outreach coordinator hat - I would love that - mostly for internal and also publicly useful. I agree we'd want a page. Would be awesome.
<Zakim> Rachael, you wanted to ask if we can automate
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to suggest other approaches to minutes sharing and to volunteer to set up template page, unless slh wants to
Rachael: If we were careful for agenda - could we just scrap that from minutes?
MichaelC: You could sign up for mailing list for a group. Been on my list to collect minutes from groups. Probably be possible to pull out headings and summarize topics. I do think value in active summary that is not automated.
<Zakim> shawn, you wanted to respond breif notes vs. agendas & MInutes and to say with new pages and list of agendas and minutes
Shawn: Work on updated way to handle working group and task force pages to make agendas and minutes easier to find.
Shawn: Need to think about intergroup communication and reduces workload.
Kim: Plus 1 to not making more work. Could place latest minutes on same page. We could write bullets by minutes if we wanted to.
MichaelC: If I get to minutes automation - that might be possible. Might need to be 2 pages as it would need to connect to database and the other page would be a wiki. Could be a link from the page.
Rain: Bullets would be quite helpful. Minutes can be overwhelming and agenda may not be clear.
<shawn> [ Shawn suggests a way to be flexible on timing -- so each group can update based on frequency that works for their group ]
Rain: Could be just part of preparing for this meeting - having access to automated meetings would be a good addition- but not required to go through those minutes.
Wilco: What problem are we trying to solve?
Shawn: 1 is coordination with this group and within groups and the other is communication to the public
Rachael: Could dive in more today or discussion further in future? Any preferences?
Rachael: Let's put as primary agenda item next week time.
Rachael: At one time we had talked about other groups like APA and EO to talk about this and to remind them.
Shawn: Yes, EO is checking it.
Shawn: This started in WAI coordination group. Brining it broader has not be an issue so far.
AG status update
Rachael: AG status update. Preparing to put out another heartbeat draft of Silver. Trying to build it differently from WCAG 3 - more agile and get public feedback rather than fully developed for public feedback. It causes discussion because of that.
Rachael: Starting work on implementation report on 2.2 - still looking to October timeframe.
Task force update and discussion
Rachael: Targeting October and November which acknowledgement that things slip
Chris: Update on LVTF - planning with Shawn - survey dates. Sending out to public list and to members who have recently joined.
Chris: Meeting with Shawn on overall paths
Rachael: Is there anything you need at this point?
Rain: COGA is getting ready to launch/submit a community group. Working on 2 topics for Silver - clear language and help. Hoping to complete first drafts in August. Also working on mental health research module.
Rain: Team is going through comprehensive lit review to capture knowledge. We are looking to illustrate and make use of.
Rain: Looking at TPAC and coordinate break out sessions to look at patterns and user stories in content usable to make their way into specifications across different projects throughout the W3C.
Kim: For mobile - we are working with Jeanne is moving 2.1 SC to WCAG 3 - working on templates. Not doing a whole lot this summer. Kathy has been out.
Kim: We need more members.
Kim: had been discussion about new mobile platforms but that is suspended as we don't have enough people.
Rachael: Have we put a call out to AG? If you write up a few sentences about what work is coming up we could announce it to find out if people are interested.
Kim: Developers and people who work with users are very important.
Rachael: We are about to kick off another discussion of conformance with alternative model. This will highlight some of the differences and we will discuss in depth over the next month.
<ChrisLoiselle> FYI , for reference on WCAG 2.2, I see this on WAI, https://
Wilco: Have been working on migrating community group to WAI website.
Wilco: As part of that we started using redesign - looking for feedback and a little stuck because of that.
Wilco: Hoping to get this live in September.
Wilco: Then we can deprecate the community group site with smaller pages just on documentation for community group.
Wilco: Did a proposal to get more consistency on testing. We may need to revisit what is in the format such as adding some new requirements or tweaking them.
Wilco: Hoping to get more rules to AG.
Wilco: Also incorporation tables into the pages. They are already on WAI website.
Rachael: Does AG need to review or approve the addition of these tables? We can take to our meeting and get answer.
New business and action review
Rachael: any new business?
Rachael: Is there any way we can improve this meeting to more effective?
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<Rachael> thank you.