Meeting minutes
trackbot, prepare teleconference
Agenda Review
addison: anything to add to the agenda?
Action Items
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addison: one of our issues is related to backwards deletion
action-1034?
<trackbot> action-1034: Addison Phillips to Triage awaiting comment resolution items -- due 2021-06-24 -- OPEN
action-1038?
<trackbot> action-1038: Richard Ishida to Create repo for developing-localizable-manifests -- due 2021-07-01 -- OPEN
close action-1038
<trackbot> Closed action-1038.
action-1042?
<trackbot> action-1042: Addison Phillips to Remind members to review techniques/authoring-html-new for next telecon -- due 2021-07-08 -- OPEN
close action-1042
<trackbot> Closed action-1042.
action-1044?
<trackbot> action-1044: Addison Phillips to Contact plh about webauthn issues and how to handle them -- due 2021-07-08 -- OPEN
close action-1044
<trackbot> Closed action-1044.
action-1045?
<trackbot> action-1045: Addison Phillips to Draft issues on webauth#sctn-strings-langdir -- due 2021-07-08 -- OPEN
close action-1045
<trackbot> Closed action-1045.
action-1046?
<trackbot> action-1046: Addison Phillips to Add mustard warning against unicode language tag characters to string-meta -- due 2021-07-15 -- OPEN
close action-1046
<trackbot> Closed action-1046.
action-1047?
<trackbot> action-1047: Addison Phillips to File issues against webauthn and ping plh when complete -- due 2021-07-15 -- OPEN
close action-1047
<trackbot> Closed action-1047.
Info Share
fuqiao: google docs will move from html rendering to canvas-based rendering
… made a new text rendering engine vs. using content-editable
… includes complex text layout (bidi, etc. etc.)
… complex features developed at W3C will be reimplemented?
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fuqiao: tencent docs also did this; made a preso about how they implemented a11y features
RADAR Review
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r12a: looked at the i18n issues they pointed out
addison: we're building up a number of "Completed"
… do we want to close them?
r12a: we see open and closed issues in the Completed column
… the 'close?' tag is no longer relevant when the issue is moved to Completed
addison: the action is somebody should go through the Completed column and close the issues
Action: addison: close open completed reviews
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1049 - Close open completed reviews [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-07-22].
Web Authentication Update
addison: I attended the web authentication meeting
… they will immediately remove the section we're unhappy with
… i18n WG will contribute a PR
… we talked about a few things
… there are some limitations
… i'm currently holding the action to write the PR
… we will review the PR in this group before we send it to web authentication
r12a: well done
addison: a couple of people understand the importance of i18n support
String-Meta PR for Unicode tag characters
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r12a: typo: langauge
r12a: otherwise looks good to me
addison: made the glossary cleaner, consistent
… re-arranged the order
JcK: not just in W3C, but also in IETF and Unicode Consortium
[Unicode] says that the "... use of tag characters to convey language tags is strongly discouraged" and that the use of the character U+E0001 LANGUAGE TAG is strongly discouraged. The only current use of characters in this block of Unicode is to form various flag emoji.
addison: Unicode says that the use of tag characters to convey language tags is strongly discouraged
r12a: i'll be inclined to omit the last sentence
addison: any objection on removing that sentence?
Peter: in § 5.3.3 it says "Unicode tag characters are strongly deprecated by the Unicode Consortium"
… they only say "strongly discouraged" instead of "strongly deprecated"
r12a: "deprecated" and "discourage" do not mean the same thing in W3C too
Use of Unicode tag characters for language identification are strongly discouraged by the Unicode Consortium (and thus deprecated).
JcK: +1
Peter: +1
<David> +1
Action: addison: merge string-meta changes pending richard's review of the glossary changes
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1050 - Merge string-meta changes pending richard's review of the glossary changes [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-07-22].
DOMException localizability
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addison: localization of exceptions
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addison: I tend to think we should make exceptions localizable
… how do we want to address this?
<Peter> Unicode deprecation of language tagging: http://
<atsushi> https://
<r12a> https://
(and in TR at https://
addison: should we file the equivalent comment for Geolocation to Web IDL?
r12a: language and direction, right?
addison: that's right
xfq: should we add metadata to the interface?
… as optional attributes?
addison: preferably not optional
"present but optional"
addison: the field should be there, but the value can be optional
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r12a: do we create a new issue or do we extend the issue marcos filed?
addison: I think it's better to file separate specific issues
Action: addison: file issues about DOMException against WebIDL to add metadata and to provide for localizability
<trackbot> Created ACTION-1051 - File issues about domexception against webidl to add metadata and to provide for localizability [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-07-22].
localizable-manifests
put to top in next week
AOB?
r12a: wrote a report on the i18n sponsorship program