<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/
<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: Jennie
*Nope, just a woman that can type quickly (smile)
<LisaSeemanKest> next item
<JohnRochford> Jennie is my scribing hero too!
Lisa: WCAG 2.2 went out for review
<LisaSeemanKest> W3C WAI invites you to review the updated Working Draft of WCAG 2.2 at:
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG22/
<LisaSeemanKest> This Working Draft is ready for wide review before finalizing WCAG 2.2.
<LisaSeemanKest> The WCAG 2.2 draft includes 9 new success criteria since WCAG 2.1. They are introduced in:
<LisaSeemanKest> What's New in WCAG 2.2 Working Draft
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/standards-guidelines/wcag/new-in-22/
<JohnRochford> +1
Lisa: Does anyone want to speak to that?
MichaelC: We published a version
last August for wide review
... We have gotten through the comments, and this incorporates
those comments
... Did we address the comments well enough?
... At this point - major revisions are not on the table
... Guidance missing is for 2.3 or 3.0
JohnRochford: Accessible
authentication is part of 2.2
... If there are calls for commentary COGA should submit some
in support
Lisa: Is it helpful to say we like the COGA ones?
MichaelC: That is not an
actionable comment.
... I suggest that if there are specific success criteria of
interest - we can monitor specific ones in terms of the
comments
... We can make a wiki page, and a comment does something you
don't like, then it would be worth countering that comment
Lisa: Near the end of the
commenting period we could review the comments
... I will add that
... Review comments on WCAG 2.2
... In about a month?
MichaelC: The due date for comments is June 11th
Lisa: Around June 11th we will do
that.
... I'm adding this to our list of things to do with other
groups
... Thank you
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Actions
Lisa: Now we are looking at the
planning page, the actions ...1st: mental health
subgroup
... Setting up the first meeting
Fazio: I'm creating a Doodle poll to see what works best for people
Lisa: (lists the people
interested)
... Please send it to the COGA list
... We also have some recruiting to do
... I know that the image subgroup is moving along
... Jennie was tasked with scheduling a call for the WCAG 3
subgroup
Rain: I am realizing there is a
lot of interest in the mental health group
... Since I'm on others, please remove me from the mental
health subgroup
... I can track it down on the wiki
Lisa: it might be in a few places
<Zakim> Rain, you wanted to ask that I step off the mental health subgroup since I'm on the others as well
Jennie: I will connect with those on the WCAG 3 subgroup to be sure we get a date on the calendar firmed up
Lisa: Albert has the first
version of his document
... I resent it in an email with a different subject line to
get more attention to it
... I have also added it to the agenda
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IB2vpDH5EE8Xp4_SbXEO7MA4fy0m9bQAZnUNpWE_WA/edit#
Lisa: This is for people that are new, or have questions
*Glad you are working on this Albert!
Lisa: group members please add any questions you feel might be helpful to this document
<Rain> +1
Lisa: Steve is working on the web changes
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IB2vpDH5EE8Xp4_SbXEO7MA4fy0m9bQAZnUNpWE_WA/edit#
Lisa: Now we are discussing the
actions request
... David and John K - you are working on the augmented
reality
... Did you manage to review all of it?
Fazio: We have not gone through
the entire document yet
... They have questions about the comments
Lisa: You probably want to review the entire document
Fazio: Yes, we are working on it
Lisa: They are on pause for us,
so it is urgent
... Do you need help?
JohnKirkwood: It is pretty sizeable, but I am not sure who might be available
Lisa: It is a list of requirements for augmentative reality
JohnRochford: I have a colleague
that specializes in this area, but she is not available
... I don't have expertise in this area
Lisa: Anyone else
interested?
... I did write to Jamie at the BBC
<Albert> Which team are we talking about?
Jennie will reach out to the group from the XR access symposium to see if anyone has expertise and interest to help
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Lisa: Michael has asked us to get
a scope for each subgroup
... and give it a home page
... If you are focused on a particular subgroup, you can
bookmark this page
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/Subgroups/Mental_Health
Lisa: Starting with the mental
health page
... (reads the text on the page)
<LisaSeemanKest> The Mental Health Subgroup are working on a research module on Web accessibility for mental health.
<LisaSeemanKest> This may result in new user stories, user needs, patterns and other guidance in Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities
<Fazio> I think it'ss sufficient
<LisaSeemanKest> +1
Suggest replacing "are" with "is"
<JustineP> +1
<cweidner> +1
<johnkirkwood> +1
<Fazio> +1
<Rain> +1 and add a period at the end of the final sentence
+1
Will group members be able to go in and edit those pages?
Lisa: I think people can.
Rain: I will check
*Suggestion: group members on the subgroups can verify they have editing writes, post to the list if they do not
Lisa: I put a July date for the
first draft
... Ask Roy and Michael if you need editing rights
<LisaSeemanKest> next item
Lisa: The WCAG 3 Coordination group
<JohnRochford> BRB. Will be listening.
<LisaSeemanKest> WCAG 3 Coordination in working on turning user stories and other guidance in Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities into the Silver format and help get it though the wcag 3/ silver process
<LisaSeemanKest> Note that different people will be involved for each user story / silver guideline
Lisa: Prioritization of the items will be in the main group
<LisaSeemanKest> +1
+1
<Rain> +1
<johnkirkwood> +1
<JustineP> +1
*Thanks Rain!
<LisaSeemanKest> next item
Lisa: Scope for the images subgroup is next
<LisaSeemanKest> The Images Sub Group will make images to help people understand the objectives and patterns in Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities
+1
<LisaSeemanKest> +1
<JustineP> +1
<Rain> +1 and I can help keep this up to date, too
<Fazio> +1
<johnkirkwood> +1
<cweidner> +21
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Lisa: We have some recruiting to
do
... 1st tab is groups and people, 2nd tab is community
... John K has suggested the Brain Injury Association
... Jennie is suggesting the state of Minnesota staff working
in mental health
... I suggested the Cost Astep network
... Jennie has suggested the National Alliance on Mental
Health
<Albert> National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI)
* thanks Albert!
Lisa: I think we may need a bit more
<Albert> https://www.verywellmind.com/leading-mental-health-charities-and-organizations-4147842
Lisa: Albert - is there someone there you want to reach out to?
*Albert is on mute?
<Albert> can you not hear me?
*no
Albert: That link I shared has
leading mental health charities and organizations
... How do we reach out?
Lisa: Normally we reach out for a
more aggressive look at a topic
... I wouldn't put that on the FAQs
Is this helpful? Draft email: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DoohB2-tREjXx7PF6sCi3jLt6OrjE1ciAb0Dcb7FgyU/edit#heading=h.y2s7r73z4e90
Lisa: Jennie added the link for
the Google doc where we draft an email
... If you have a suggestion of someone you think we should
recruit, add it to the spreadsheet
... We ask for any objections
... We go over it the next week in the call
... If no objections, you send it to your contact
Jennie: can you add the contact information into the draft emails in the Google doc?
Lisa: Yes. I will add a signature
line
... I will add the comments email address
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<LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2021Apr/0050.html
Lisa: Next we are talking about
the methodology
... When we did the first module we had people from
universities involved. They did a literary review
... Mental health is a bit harder than other areas - it
fluctuates
... Conditions change
... Research repeated after a period like 5 years of time, the
results find differences
... Some links have expired
... We might want to consider where something is
published
... Last time we had 2 red flags ...1: commercial
research that implies the use of proprietary products
... This doesn't mean it would be excluded, but we need to
review those carefully
... And if members of the task force are aware of contradictory
evidence
<LisaSeemanKest> https://w3c.github.io/coga/user-research/#methodology-in-user-research
Lisa: We did not receive reports
of trouble with certain things, though some people reported
that they just don't go online or avoid
... We could pick up a bit on the methodology of asking why and
when people avoid certain online activities
... What do we want to change with the methodology?
... My proposal: add a sentence that indicates that we are
aware that information changes
... I can draft a sentence
... Any comments?
... Proposal 1: capture sources and references, and critically
look at the credentials
<LisaSeemanKest> capture the sources and refrences, and critily loo at the credials of where it is published and by wholme
<LisaSeemanKest> 2. add a sentice the topic is hard to have long term reserch
<LisaSeemanKest> 3. revilate when we have acedemic input
<JustineP> +1
<cweidner> +1
Lisa: Are we happy with this direction, and we can re-evaluate in a month or 2 when we have more academic input?
<Rain> +1
<johnkirkwood> +1
Lisa: Any objections?
... Are there any objections to (Lisa can you add in name?)
<LisaSeemanKest> hebrew unversity
<LisaSeemanKest> can i reach out to them?
<Rain> +1
Lisa: Any objections?
<johnkirkwood> +1
<cweidner> +1
<JustineP> +1
Lisa: I think that is what we can do for now
<LisaSeemanKest> next item
Albert: talking about the FAQs
<LisaSeemanKest> faq's X
Albert: I don't know the answers to the FAQs
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IB2vpDH5EE8Xp4_SbXEO7MA4fy0m9bQAZnUNpWE_WA/edit#
Albert: I know we will record the next orientation meeting
Lisa: Yes. Once we have the
information finalized here we can move it to the wiki
... If group members want to add questions, that would be
great
... Think about what your questions were when you joined
... Especially newer members, as it may be easier to
remember
... For members that have been members for longer, it is also
helpful to have you add questions
<JustineP> Definitely can think of a few questions. Will take a look.
Lisa: If you have answers to
questions, that would be helpful as well
... I have added in some new questions.
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10IB2vpDH5EE8Xp4_SbXEO7MA4fy0m9bQAZnUNpWE_WA/edit#
Lisa: this is for groups that
want to work with us - it is on making inclusive working
groups
... as a participant or as a chair, what would make it easier
for you to participate with the W3C?
... Some of these things have been addressed. If we can capture
those things, it would be a useful resource.
... What tips do we want to give chairs inside the W3C.
... this one is from our group
... MichaelC is working on a general one, and Jennie will help
with that one
... We could also add examples (going back to the COGA
tips)
Rain: I would be happy to take a look and add notes and examples
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbjN7fLaucSzVfTqQdoCHoX3GFEoyHz2iiz3ap9Yd6k/edit#
<Zakim> Rain, you wanted to say that I'd be happy to take a look and add notes and examples
Justine: I would be happy to take a look as well
Lisa: If anyone else wants to,
they are welcome
... It would help me to know what else could help make things
work better
JohnKirkWood: I would be willing to look as well
Albert: Me too
Lisa: Thank you
... We do have a meeting next week
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