W3C

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Miniapps Working Group Monthly Meeting

29 April 2021

Attendees

Present
Angel, Canfeng_Chen, Dan_Zhou, Kapoor_Manvi, Martin_Alvarez, Ming_Zu, QingAn, Tengyuan_Zhang, tomayac, wangjia, Wenli_Zhang, xfq, xiaoqian, Yongjing_Zhang
Regrets
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Chair
Wenli
Scribe
xfq, xiaoqian

Meeting minutes

Manifest

Algorithms for processing the manifest

https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-manifest/issues/3

https://w3c.github.io/miniapp-manifest/

Wenli: martin has sent a PR

Wenli: merged

Wenli: can we close this issue?

xfq: haven't seem the algorithms in detail

xfq: there are some references to WAM

martin: what I did was trying to define each manifest members
… based on the extension point
… including the existing algorithm of Manifest
… also linking refs to original specs
… align the algorithms

xiaoqian: I have a question for Martin

xiaoqian: it seems you have done a very good job to refer to Web App Manifest
… do you think it would be helpful to request review from the WAM editors
… to see if it's a good way to refer to their algorithms and definitions
… or do you think we can ask their review for like every three months?
… or do you think we should ask for their review for this specific pull request
… one of the Web App Manifest editors is part of the W3C Team now
… he would be willing to help

martin: we should ask for review
… about whether the current way is the best way to link to and to extend Web App Manifest
… how to use the Infra Standard
… how to link to the algorithms
… if you agree I'll ask them to have a high-level review to our spec
… will contact them

xiaoqian: sounds great

xiaoqian: he is also the maintainer of ReSpec, which is one of our spec tooling

<martin> thanks, I'll ask them

yongjing: sorry to jump in

yongjing: I have a question

yongjing: we resolved to publish FPWD

yongjing: the Director has approved it

yongjing: status of FPWD?

xfq: publication moratorium this week

xfq: I'll be on vacation next week

xfq: so I'll publish it in mid-May

i18n

wenli: i18n
… any comments from Yongjing?

martin: I think it's still under discussion

martin: we had some input to WAM
… AFAIK there is no final conclusion
… I think we need more time to align with Web App Manifest
… it's important
… we should continue to discuss this

wenli: we will continue to discuss this offline
… anything else we should talk about manifest?

martin: most open issues in Manifest are related to i18n

Packaging

wenli: packaging
… names of the platforms

https://github.com/w3c/miniapp-packaging/issues/19

xfq: it's just for refs

martin: in the while, I corrected the names in the specs per xfq's suggestion

Wenli: any other topic we should discuss?

TPAC early planning

https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC/2021/GroupMeetings

Yongjing: TPAC

Yongjing: until 10 September we should fill in the tables with our preferred meeting dates and time

Yongjing: any suggestions from xiaoqian or xfq?

xiaoqian: at this stage the W3C Events Team would like to know what groups will meet at TPAC

Yongjing: I would assume that we need some slots

Yongjing: we may have some interop tests/demos and early implementations to show

xiaoqian: if we would like to have conversations with the i18n WG or other groups it would be a great opportunity to have joint meetings

Yongjing: we can have a joint meeting with WebApps WG and perhaps Publishing@W3C

xiaoqian: the meeting can be 2 hours to 2 days
… depending on the group

Yongjing: in a F2F we can sit together dome some PlugFest
… how can we do that in a virtual meeting?
… maybe do some pre-recording?

xiaoqian: too early to discuss this
… we make a few months
… we can discuss it when we start implementing the specs

xfq: last year was also virtual
… the Immersive Web WG/CG made video demos

https://www.w3.org/2020/10/TPAC/iw-demos.html

martin: absolutely good ideas
… maybe also showcase of miniapp work in breakout sessions
… and PlugFest like the WoT groups

Screen Orientation

https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/

xiaoqian: angel told me Alibaba is interested in Screen Orientation
… the W3C spec is not a REC yet
… implemented in browsers
… need to fix a few bugs
… I wonder if the MiniApp vendors are interested

https://w3c.github.io/miniapp-manifest/#orientation-member

<tomayac> Yes, "orientation"

<tomayac> Defined here https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#orientation-member

<tomayac> Web App Manifest allows for enums as defined in https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/#dom-orientationlocktype

<tomayac> The meaning of the enums is defined here https://www.w3.org/TR/screen-orientation/#screen-orientation-types-and-locks

QingAn: the screen orientation of a device can change from landscape to portrait
… not sure if defining it in the manifest is enough
… it's static
… we should define some events to be informed when the screen orientation changes
… which is dynamic

<Angel> maybe we should discuss this idea in the CG?

Yongjing: thank you for the requirement

Yongjing: we can think about if we should include it in the UI component work

Yongjing: you can file a GitHub issue
… we can discuss it in the issue

xiaoqian: question for the group
… for this kind of events

Action: Anqing to provide the details of screen events API in the github issue

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xiaoqian: where should we specify them?

Yongjing: I think it's more related to UI aspects
… but we'll see

xiaoqian: if you define this kind of events
… if would be great if we can try our best to align with the Screen Orientation API in the WebApps WG
… it's actually quite stable
… but it's a working draft

Yongjing: of course

AOB

Wenli: any other topic?

xiaoqian: after FPWD
… I suggest that we request for horizontal reviews
… a11y, security, privacy, i18n, TAG

yongjing: yes, but these issues are not resolved yet

<Angel> +1 to express concern about the maturity of the specs for H review

xiaoqian: that's why we do wide review

xiaoqian: If we request too late, the cost of modifying the spec will become higher

xfq: getting early review is very important

xfq: next meeting

<Angel> fine with May 27

xfq: May 27, same time

[Adjourned]

Summary of action items

  1. Anqing to provide the details of screen events API in the github issue
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