Meeting minutes
<Matt_King> rrsagent , make log public
Setup and review agenda
<Jemma> bryan's question will be answered by Jon
APG redesign project
<Jemma> summary by Matt
mck: new design template for WAI resources, including WCAG and all supporting documents
<Jemma> scibe: Carolyn
mck: so we are going to collaborate on the template
accordion example
Jemma: need to choose between 2 accordion examples. any feedback?
<Jemma> https://
<Jemma> option 1
mck: Sarah, can you summarize differences between option 1 and option 2?
sarah_higley: There's a link missing - I'll find it
<Jemma> option 2 : https://
<Jemma> https://
sarah_higley: 2 different behaviors are: any accordion can be open or closed; or only one can be open at a time
<sarah_higley> Here's option 1 with two different examples: https://
<sarah_higley> Here's option 2, with a checkbox to switch behavior on a single example: https://
mck: To be clear, option one has 2 example pages in the APG
mck: I have a strong opinion, but I want to hear others' opinions
sarah_higley: I have a slight preference for independent example pages, because then the examples can be more realistic - more like what you would see in the wild
mck: I like separate example pages for this, because one is simple (no aria-disabled, for example), more common
mck: easier to make a point because the use cases are different
mck: option 1 is to have 2 pages, option 2 is to have a checkbox on 1 example page
<Jemma> + 1 for Jon
<Jemma> option 1 was selected for final implementation
brian: I think it would be more consistent to have 2 example pages - it would be easier to send a link to a client and say "do it this way"
<MarkMcCarthy> +1 to Bryan
carmacleod: for the record, I prefer the separate pages as well - nice to have 2 different use cases
Setup and review agenda
slider example
<Jemma> https://
<Jemma> we have four sliders to discuss and the first slider is temperature slider.
jongund: This is basically just breaking up the temperature slider into multiple pages.
mck: would like another accessibility review - not sure if aria-labelledby was working?
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Jemma: next slider is media seek slider
jongund: in this example I don't use aria-orientation - should I use it?
mck: it's horizontal, so we shouldn't use orientation on this one
jongund: just wanted to double check
mck: I love how it's announced now. It's actually pretty sweet.
mck: it only says "of 5 minutes" when you tab in to the control, but arrows and pageup/down after that don't repeat the "of 5 minutes"
<Jemma> https://
mck: what did we decide we needed for high contrast documentation for this one?
jongund: it is documented
mck: some day we will have a high contrast section in the APG coding practices
sarah_higley: yep
<siri> ./me Can I get the bug# for talkback issue you were referring Jemma?
<Jemma> https://
<Jemma> Bad value “presentation” for attribute “role” on element “svg”.
jongund: the validator doesn't like role none on svg
mck: I can fix this in the merge
<Jemma> fourth example is rating slider
<Jemma> https://
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mck: This is the one where you can do half-stars
mck: so do the stars have role none?
jongund: yes, the svgs have role none
mck: are the stars tap targets?
<siri> star rating usually considered as radio buttons
jongund: yes, and it works well on touch devices - tap on left side and get half, tap on right side and get whole star
mck: is it a problem for WCAG touch target size?
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<siri> https://
sarah_higley: I don't think so, because it's just a visual style of the slider
<Jemma> https://
APG index and coverage report
<Jemma> https://
jongund: I addressed all the issues
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mck: I would like to help from the group to make sure the information in the index is accurate
Jemma: I can help with this
mck: not sure if we want to do implied semantics as well? For example, nav and not just navigation?
jongund: nav comes up for the navigation treeview and navigation menubar