W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

15 April 2021

Attendees

Present
Addison, Atsushi, Felix, fsasaki, Fuqiao, JcK, Richard
Regrets
Bert
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison, xfq

Meeting minutes

trackbot, prepare teleconference

Agenda Review

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

addison: had some interactions with Mark

action-1014?

<trackbot> action-1014: Richard Ishida to Reopen csswg 5570 against cascade-4/5 -- due 2021-04-15 -- OPEN

r12a: I left a message on the thread asking fantasai

richard: left a message for fantasai to change the label

close action-1014

<trackbot> Closed action-1014.

Info Share

RADAR Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1

addison: moving EPUB to "Awaiting comment resolution"

r12a: got an invitation from Ian to join a channel
… are we supposed to be meeting with the Payments folks?

addison: in an hour

Article style redesign

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-http-and-lang.en

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-html-dir.en

r12a: I happen to be looking at this article ^
… it's out of date
… I thought about logical properties
… the stylesheet could be updated

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/style/new/top.png

r12a: talked with Kenzo today
… this is what I came up with ^

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/style/new/top.png

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-http-and-lang.en

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/style/new/middle.png

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/style/new/bottom.png

r12a: I wonder if I should go ahead and make those changes
… or whether you need a bit more time to look at it
… try to reduce the distraction
… especially the top of the page
… the new style shouldn't be hard to implement
… should be just a question of changing the stylesheet

addison: it looks pretty

<atsushi> +1

<fsasaki> +1

addison: i like it
… any objections?

<xfq> +1

Action: richard: fix stylesheets using logical properties etc.

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1016 - Fix stylesheets using logical properties etc. [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-04-22].

zak fsasaki

r12a: i'll fix all the stylesheets and the logical properties at the same time

fsasaki: which logical properties will be used

r12a: inline-start, block-end etc.

Directionality of number sequences

r12a: did you have a look at it?

addison: I did

https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arabic/#expressions

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/scripts/arabic/#expressions

r12a: i found myself thinking perhaps we should have an article or add this into string-meta
… this is a large block of text

r12a: this is in one of my articles about writing systems

r12a: the order is controlled by the solidus
… the direction cannot be changed using RLM
… Solidus, colon, etc.

addison: zero width space doesn't break the run
… you might be able to use it

r12a: wrt hyphen, it depends on what hyphen you're talking about
… ascii hyphen vs. Unicode hyphen
… behavior is different
… the reason is because of the minus thing

JcK: makes sense
… go back and look at my notes hyphen was chosen rather than solidus

r12a: if you use an american date use ISO order

addison: ISO 8601 is a serialization format

r12a: not for syntactic stuff
… it's for people to read

JcK: 8601 is a presentation format as well as a serialization format

2021-04-15T15: 16:17+00:00

JcK: many systems does not use that to store data

r12a: we need to join the Payments meeting now

addison: are there other things we need to do this week?
… we can read r12a's article and come back next week

AOB?

(joining payment requests call)

<JcK> What is their IRC channel name? Went by too quickly

<atsushi> #wpwg

<JcK> thanks

Action: addison: send wpwg list of specs that implement lang/dir

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1017 - Send wpwg list of specs that implement lang/dir [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-04-22].

Action: addison: establish rotating scribe list and add it to the agenda

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1018 - Establish rotating scribe list and add it to the agenda [on Addison Phillips - due 2021-04-22].

Summary of action items

  1. richard: fix stylesheets using logical properties etc.
  2. addison: send wpwg list of specs that implement lang/dir
  3. addison: establish rotating scribe list and add it to the agenda
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 127 (Wed Dec 30 17:39:58 2020 UTC).

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