W3C

WoT Marketing

09 March 2021

Attendees

Present
Coralie_Mercier, Cristiano_Aguzzi, Daniel_Peintner, Jack_Dickinson, Kaz_Ashimura, Kunihiko_Toumura, Michael_Lagally, Michael_McCool, Philipp_Blum, Xiaoqian_Wu, Junde_Yhi
Regrets
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Chair
Sebastian
Scribe
kaz

Meeting minutes

Guests

Sebastian: Junde Yhi, who volunteered to work on the Chinese captions

Xiaoqian: Xiaoqian Wu, W3C Beihang site manager

prev minutes

Mar-2

Sebastian: (goes through the minutes)
… new WoT welcome page and the explainer video published
… working on blob post
… PR 134 on TFs
… we'll look into the detail today
… any objections?

(none)

approved

Basic marketing policies for publication

Sebastian: our policy to publish information publicly like the WoT Welcome page
… several options
… Marketing TF to entitled to make updates
… or getting back to the main call
… is clear Resolution needed every time?
… we need a good guideline here

Lagally: outbound messaging is always sensitive
… Marketing TF is a subgroup of the WoT IG
… so it would be dangerous in case the intention of the whole group were not reflected
… we've been careful to handle our meeting minutes as well
… thorough review before publishing them

Sebastian: ok
… how should we improve the procedure then?
… for example, we've been mentioning the Marketing TF's plan during the main calls
… should we record our decision using "RESOLUTION" as well?

Lagally: for significant things, we should do so
… there could be some "border" cases, though
… specifically, if we make a completely new change, we need to record it clearly

Sebastian: maybe there was some confusion

McCool: would agree we should have made a resolution for the big release like the one we made the other day
… but would also suggest we ask people to review the content within some specific review period, e.g., 1 week

Philipp: also mentioned that W3C is a bit slow about marketing
… can be problematic to output marketing for the standards
… so would like to agree with McCool
… one week review period would be OK, even though it isn't ideal to move forward fast.

Daniel: agree
… 1 week might be too long but OK

Daniel: note that if there is any problem, we should/can improve it
… don't have to be perfect

Lagally: tx for your hard work first
… one week review period proposed by McCool is fine

Kaz: we're getting a conclusion while I've been waiting :)

McCool: another question is how to handle the PR and branch to merge
… also how to run the review

Sebastian: it's a generic question

McCool: what is the current process?

Sebastian: the PR is merged to the "master" branch and it will be applied directly

McCool: not merge PR until the review is done

McCool: we can decide which is major and which is minor
… we should be conservative to manage the repo
… nice to have a preview, though

Daniel: can look into it

Cristiano: this is a right way
… but we have great features to review the PR
… every PR should be open until the review is done

Kaz: to see previews, we might want to have several sub repos
… and copy the contents from those sub repos to the main wot-marketing repo after the content was approved

McCool: Marketing TF can categorize the PRs into major and minor
… and major ones need detailed review

Lagally: +1

Sebastian: we'll use two labels, "major" and "minor"
… major requires one week review and resolution at the main call
… minor requires one-day review

Cristiano: possibly up to 2 weeks?

McCool: yeah
… possible one week delay

Lagally: editorial fixes like typo can be handled quickly

McCool: so we should use three levels, editorial, minor and major
… editorial means typos, etc.

<cris> +1

McCool: another question is twitter, etc.
… would propose 3-day review

Philipp: if we need to get approval, the good timing would be gone
… I think Twitter retweets etc. should be handled by some people trusted by the group. They should have some restrictions on that, of course.

<cris> +1

McCool: yeah, one week should be too long for that
… one day review for twitter
… one week review for Web pages

Sebastian: (add those proposed three labels on the agenda wiki)

McCool: "editorial changes" to be used bug fixes

Sebastian: is that ok?

Lagally: should call it "bug fix"

McCool: and twitter news for one day announcement in the mailinglist

Lagally: which list?

Kaz: Marketing work belongs to the IG, so should go to the IG list, but can be CCed to the WG list

McCool: ok

Sebastian: (record it on the agenda)

[[

major changes: PRs (e.g., new page content or new web pages, Blog Post) needs 1 week preview time of the WoT group (will be announced in the main call)

minor changes: PRs (e.g., small extension) will be also announced latest one day before the main call

bug fixes: PRs (e.g., typos, links update) can be merged directly

twitter news: one day announcement in the mailing list (wot-ig & wot-wg)

we will introduce three labels minor / major / editorial

]]

Resolution: we'll use the above as our policy from now on

PR 134

PR 134 - Webpage: Adding TF info to WG and IG overview pages

Lagally: the table is not really great, though :)

Sebastian: can be improved later

McCool: is this a major change? or minor

Sebastian: should be minor

McCool: ok

<cris> +1 for minor

McCool: we should fix the table style before merging

McCool: can we fix it before the main call tomorrow?

Lagally: will try

<cris> +1 for labels

Daniel: wondering whether to use, "Task Force" or "Taskforce"

McCool: we use "TF" as the acronym, so should use "Task Force"
… let's put a label

Multiple language support of the video + alternative publication platform

Sebastian: two topics here

issue 141 - Multiple language support for the animation video

Sebastian: Junde Yhi has volunteered to work on the Chinese captions

Junde: very interested in this

Sebastian: tx!

McCool: fantastic
… should we look for another caption for traditional Chinese?
… also Junde, can you work with the GitHub repo?

Junde: think so

Kaz: if needed, you can send it by email to me and I can install it for you

Sebastian: we have Italian captions as well

Xiaoqian: happy to have Chinese captions as well
… regarding the traditional captions, we have contacts in Taiwan

<sebastian> https://www.w3.org/2021/02/wot-explainer-video.html

<mlagally> I will drop off for the use cases call

Kaz: regarding the video server, we've already installed the explainer video on the W3C side as above

<koalie> [I need to go to my next meeting too :/]

<koalie> [Coralie departs]

Xiaoqian: these days bilibili is more popular for younger people in China

Sebastian: unfortunately, we need to continue the discussion next time...
… please join the next call

Xiaoqian: ok

[adjourned]

Summary of resolutions

  1. we'll use the above as our policy from now on
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