W3C

– DRAFT –
Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

24 February 2021

Attendees

Present
janina, jasonjgw, joconnor, JPaton, scott_h, SteveNoble
Regrets
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Chair
jasonjgw
Scribe
SteveNoble

Meeting minutes

Conversational agent accessibility continuation of discussion.

RAUR and XAUR any updates.

Josh: worked on acknowledgements

<joconnor> http://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/2021-jan-raur/raur/index.html#call-participants-and-status

Josh: was looking at new user need to mention the participants on teh call and their status

Josh: 14b participant metadata added - comments?

Janina: looks good

Josh: this can be merged into main

Jason: put out as a wide review draft to gather any final comments before publishing a final note

Jason: XAUR is also heading toward a wide-review draft

Josh: should be good to go on his end

Conversational agent accessibility continuation of discussion.

W3C Workshop on Wide Color Gamut and High Dynamic Range for the Web (continued).

Jason: potential RQTF contribution?

Janina: looking for potential presenters on this topic

Jason: other ways of participating?

Janina: may simply attend the workshop

Session speakers and schedule won't be known until March 30

Janina: will be hard to recruit attendees without this information

Josh: what are the accessibility angles and gaps?

Janina: issues around color perception; automated techniques to adjust color spectrum

Judy: what about video and dynamic images?

Judy: flash mitigation is an area, since it can be color-based

Jason: will take this topic to an APA meeting to solicit attendance

Continuing research on media synchronization.

<joconnor> SN: Jason created the page and put issues at the top

<joconnor> Covered the degree of separation between sources

<jasonjgw> Steve: has updated the wiki page. The lip reading audio/video synchronization use case is now well documented.

<jasonjgw> Captions in live media present synchronization issues - including the possibility of summarizing the dialogue.

<jasonjgw> Steve hasn't yet investigated synchronization issues with sign language interpretation.

<jasonjgw> Steve: synchronized highlighting would be another issue to investigate - also documented on the wiki page.

<jasonjgw> Steve suspects there may be limited research on this last point.

<jasonjgw> Janina notes that synchronized highlighting reltes to a specific kind of AT and likely wouldn't result in requirements for timed text.

<Judy> https://www.w3.org/community/immersive-captions/

Conversational agent accessibility continuation of discussion.

Jason: has done some searching for a definition, but nothing so far

Josh: some connections are smart agents, natural language, and how to frame user issues

Josh: we could call it "smart agents" and then connect voice, speech and whatever else

Josh: open to other ideas, but cognizant of not wanting to get into Internet of Things

Janina: what to call it? The wider industry may influence this

<joconnor> JS: Smart seems to be a marketing terms, conversation describes a process,Voice is more accurate for one part - but however you engage is variable

Janina: but conversation is the paradigm

Judy: good to have a term that emphasized the functional aspect

Judy: conversation is closer to that

<Zakim> joconnor, you wanted to ask why conversation is a good term vs voice?

Janina: Google assistant considers input as a conversational thread

Josh: I don't understand the preference for the term conversation over voice, particularily as Voice captures the zietgeist

JPaton: Voice agents are the standard for digital assistants at the moment

<janina> +1 to Judy's parsing

judy: Voice is a modality, like text is another one

Judy: Not sure that the agents can handle true "conversations"

Judy: need to capture the deeper issues

Josh: Broader framework is needed beyond modalities, the service behind it

Josh: We need to look at a modality-independent way of framing it

Jason: Modality connection needs to be nonexclusive

<Zakim> joconnor, you wanted to tease out this use of Smart

Jason: will look for live examples that are publicly available

Josh: understand the problem with "smart" as a current marketing term

Janina: to what degree can the current digital assistants be open to multiple modalities

JPaton: The example of a chat-bot on the web; they also ask as a conversational assistant

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