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<r12a> Specifying changes to parameters for fallback fonts
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richard: wanted to mention this
… seems to be taking off
… modify the metrics of one or more fonts in your font stack when you say font-family
… so that they look similar, same height, etc.
… useful in a number of ways
… such as when ransom noting takes place
richard: another use case is when you have a webfont but takes a while to appear, so can adjust the fallback font so the page doesn't jump
… when the webfont arrives; minimizes the difference
… thinking of using @font-face construct
… if you say "font-weight:bold" or such, you'd get that; get something like "font-size-override"
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richard: link is from jonathan showing what it might look like
atsushi: CJK fonts are quite large and there are a small number of weights; normally 400 and bold 600 but for same name/category
… bold might be encoded with different weight. cannot easily solve this issue without having more weights; quite difficult
atsushi: there are many things on websites for designers, but mostly guidance "win doesn't have this weight; macos that one"
richard: myles created 5 or 6 new issues; at some point may close 126; each issue for specific values weight, stretch, size, etc.
RADAR Review
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zakim take up agendum 7
richard: near the end of last week I was looking into hyphenation
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richard: and how it works in various non-Latin scripts
richard: these are issues we're tracking on hyph
… malaylam and tamil have no hyphen by do hyph.
… someone sent a note since <wbr> is zwsp
… I wrote back where break opportunities are
… soft hyphen can be useful, e.g. for inserting break positions
… the <wbr> element would be a better candidate for malayalam
… followed idea that could decorate <wbr>
… new property in css4 called hyphenate-character to specify which character to use
… proposed could set to empty string/null
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richard: and then raised issue that hyphenation styling could apply to <wbr>
… partway towards this, if use soft hyphen
… apply same styling if soft hyphen or just browser breaking
… but don't mention <wbr>
(discussion of whether wbr is being overloaded)
richard: wbr should be same as soft-hyphen
… for languages such as malayalam you have a way to provide hyphenation when browsers haven't caught up with providing
… this hyphenate-character in css4 could say used at end or beginning of line
… or both e.g. for Polish
… mongolian uses as beginning of line
richard: basic ideas
… (1) use wbr in word
… separate presentation vs. break opportunity
hyphenate-character can be @lang'ed?
richard: yes
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richard: started putting labels like `i:hyphenate` on issues to help find/group them
addison: add to the directions for when we're filing issues?
Action: richard: add i: labels to issue filing instructions
<trackbot> Created ACTION-995 - Add i: labels to issue filing instructions [on Richard Ishida - due 2021-02-18].
AOB?
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richard: couple new issues in issue list
… add an i:language-tagging?
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richard to review epub issues for any potential problematic closes