Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference

20 January 2021


becky, Ela, IanPouncey, Jonny_James, JPaton, Léonie (tink), Matthew_Atkinson, paul_grenier
Amy Carney, Gottfried Zimmerman, Janina Sajka

Meeting minutes

Agenda Review & Announcements

Becky: RQTF is having a joint meeting with Web of Things next wednesday at 9am ET.

<MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/personalXR

<MichaelC> Personalization demo repo

APA Rechartering Begins -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html

Becky: Some Personalization and Pronunciation info has been added. Please review (before next week).

Task Force Updates

Becky: Personalization didn't meet (public holiday); getting ready for CR.

Paul: Pronunciation: Making progress on draft towards FPWD. Seeking partners/implementors to demonstrate the case. Need browsers' help to provide the needed info in the accessibility tree.

FAST Progress

New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22

<MichaelC> PROPOSED Pointer Events Working Group Charter

Michael: We should comment that IndieUI is closed

Becky & MIchael: Looks good to go.

Léonie: Will check with Patrick and confirm.

<MichaelC> PROPOSED Service Workers Working Group Charter

Michael & Becky: this seems like a low-level API. (We don't need to be listed as a liaison.)

Becky: We'll get to review specs as they emerge.

new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html

Michael: There are some from Internationalization that we are aware of and do not need to review.

<MichaelC> CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5

<MichaelC> Arabic and Persian Gap Analysis

<MichaelC> The Responsible Use of Spatial Data

Ian: We don't need to review CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5

Michael: Anything relevant in spatial data?

Becky: Could it be used to particularly identify a disability/assistive technology?

Michael: There are existing sections on privacy/ethics that seem to cover this. We know about beacons used as assistive tech; seem to be covered by the above.

Becky: Sounds OK. [no objections from group]]

CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues

Becky: Amy sent regrets but posted to the list.

<becky> Box Model Module Level 3 (https://www.w3.org/TR/css-box-3/ appears to have no issues. There have only been a few additions since CSS2:

<becky> Adapting the prose slightly to account for vertical writing modes.

<becky> Cross-linking to relevant concepts in [css-break-3] and [css-backgrounds-3].

<becky> Defining the non-applicability of margin, padding and their longhands to ruby base containers and ruby annotation containers(at risk).

<becky> Providing a centralized common definition of keywords that reference the various box edges for use in properties defined outside this spec (e.g. background-clip) to avoid repetition (and the resulting inevitable synchronization errors).

Ian: Nothing APA-specific here.

Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open

<Zakim> tink, you wanted to update on the Pointer Events charter.

Léonie: Update, checked with Patrick and no APA-specific concerns in the Pointer Events charter.

Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review

<MichaelC> Consider specifying heuristics for when <ul> represents a list

Léonie: This arose due to changes in VoiceOver's heuristics that removed list semantics in some circumstances (e.g. lists of one item). The question is should this be standardized as a browser heuristic. It is a relatively contentious issue. (Personal view: hearing there's a list of one item is not damaging. This is not harmful like layout tables are.)

Michael: Should we keep this as an issue that APA is tracking?

Léonie: It's worth following. There isn't much public data on this yet.

Michael: By default, the next time we'll see this issue is when it's concluded and proposed to be closed.

Other Business


Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 127 (Wed Dec 30 17:39:58 2020 UTC).


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