IRC log of apa on 2021-01-20
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- Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 20 January 2021
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- agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
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- agenda+ APA Rechartering Begins -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
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- agenda+ Task Force Updates
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- agenda+ FAST Progress
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- agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22
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- agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
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- agenda+ CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
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- agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
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- agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
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- agenda+ Other Business
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- chair: becky
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- present+ Léonie (tink)
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- present+
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- present+
- 17:01:14 [paul_grenier]
- present+
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- regrets: Gottfried Zimmerman, Amy Carney, Janina Sajka
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- agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from becky]
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- present+
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- present+
- 17:05:00 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: RQTF is having a joint meeting with Web of Things next wednesday at 9am ET.
- 17:05:10 [MichaelC]
- https://github.com/w3c/personalXR
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- -> https://github.com/w3c/personalXR Personalization demo repo
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- present+
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- agendum 2 -- APA Rechartering Begins -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:07:27 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: Some Personalization and Pronunciation info has been added. Please review (before the end of the month).
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- agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from becky]
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- present+
- 17:08:31 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- s/(before the end of the month)/(before next week)/
- 17:08:48 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: Personalization didn't meet (public holiday); getting ready for CR.
- 17:09:32 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Paul: Making progress on draft towards FPWD. Seeking partners/implementors to demonstrate the case. Need browsers' help to provide the needed info in the accessibility tree.
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- agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
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- Zakim, close this item
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- agendum 4 closed
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- I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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- 5. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22 [from becky]
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- agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22 -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:11:52 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- s/Paul: Making/Paul: Pronunciation: Making/
- 17:12:33 [MichaelC]
- -> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/pe-2020.html PROPOSED Pointer Events Working Group Charter
- 17:14:26 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: We should comment that IndieUI is closed
- 17:14:46 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky & MIchael: Looks good to go.
- 17:14:57 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Léonie: Will check with Patrick and confirm.
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- -> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/sw-2020.html PROPOSED Service Workers Working Group Charter
- 17:17:05 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael & Becky: this seems like a low-level API. (We don't need to be listed as a liaison.)
- 17:17:21 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: We'll get to review specs as they emerge.
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- agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:19:14 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: There are some from Internationalization that we are aware of and do not need to review.
- 17:20:13 [MichaelC]
- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-cascade-5/ CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5
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- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/alreq-gap/ Arabic and Persian Gap Analysis
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- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/responsible-use-spatial/ The Responsible Use of Spatial Data
- 17:21:04 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Ian: We don't need to review CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5
- 17:22:00 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: Anything relevant in spatial data?
- 17:22:14 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: Could it be used to particularly identify a disability/assistive technology?
- 17:22:43 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: There are existing sections on privacy/ethics that seem to cover this. We know about beacons used as assistive tech; seem to be covered by the above.
- 17:22:56 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: Sounds OK. [no objections]
- 17:23:13 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- s/[no objections]/[no objections from group]]
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- agendum 7 -- CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:23:41 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Becky: Amy sent regrets but posted to the list.
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- Box Model Module Level 3 (https://www.w3.org/TR/css-box-3/ appears to have no issues. There have only been a few additions since CSS2:
- 17:24:00 [becky]
- Adapting the prose slightly to account for vertical writing modes.
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- Cross-linking to relevant concepts in [css-break-3] and [css-backgrounds-3].
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- Defining the non-applicability of margin, padding and their longhands to ruby base containers and ruby annotation containers(at risk).
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- Providing a centralized common definition of keywords that reference the various box edges for use in properties defined outside this spec (e.g. background-clip) to avoid repetition (and the resulting inevitable synchronization errors).
- 17:25:22 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Ian: Nothing APA-specific here.
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- agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:26:08 [tink]
- q+ to update on the Pointer Events charter.
- 17:26:34 [becky]
- ack tink
- 17:26:34 [Zakim]
- tink, you wanted to update on the Pointer Events charter.
- 17:26:38 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Léonie: Update, checked with Patrick and no APA-specific concerns in the Pointer Events charter.
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- agendum 9 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from becky]
- 17:27:14 [MichaelC]
- -> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6218 Consider specifying heuristics for when <ul> represents a list
- 17:29:26 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Léonie: This arose due to changes in VoiceOver's heuristics that removed list semantics in some circumstances (e.g. lists of one item). The question is should this be standardized as a browser heuristic. It is a relatively contentious issue. (Personal view: hearing there's a list of one item is not damaging. This is not harmful like layout tables are.)
- 17:29:36 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: Should we keep this as an issue that APA is tracking?
- 17:30:05 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Léonie: It's worth following. There isn't much public data on this yet.
- 17:30:43 [Matthew_Atkinson]
- Michael: By default, the next time we'll see this issue is when it's concluded and proposed to be closed.
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- Zakim, next item
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- agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
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- Zakim, close this item
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- agendum 10 closed
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- I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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- I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, Matthew_Atkinson
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- :-)
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