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16:51:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
16:51:05 <trackbot> Date: 20 January 2021
16:51:52 <becky> agenda+ Agenda Review & Announcements
16:51:52 <becky> agenda+ APA Rechartering Begins -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html
16:51:52 <becky> agenda+ Task Force Updates
16:51:52 <becky> agenda+ FAST Progress
16:51:53 <becky> agenda+ New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22
16:51:53 <becky> agenda+ new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html
16:51:54 <becky> agenda+ CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues
16:51:54 <becky> agenda+ Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open
16:51:54 <becky> agenda+ Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review
16:51:54 <becky> agenda+ Other Business
16:52:04 <becky> chair: becky
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17:00:17 <tink> present+ Léonie (tink)
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17:00:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> present+
17:00:55 <Ela> present+
17:01:14 <paul_grenier> present+
17:02:37 <becky> regrets: Gottfried Zimmerman, Amy Carney, Janina Sajka
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17:03:32 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:03:32 <Zakim> agendum 1 -- Agenda Review & Announcements -- taken up [from becky]
17:04:12 <Jonny_James> present+
17:04:33 <becky> present+
17:05:00 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: RQTF is having a joint meeting with Web of Things next wednesday at 9am ET.
17:05:10 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/personalXR
17:05:24 <MichaelC> -> https://github.com/w3c/personalXR Personalization demo repo
17:05:33 <JPaton> present+
17:06:26 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:06:26 <Zakim> agendum 2 -- APA Rechartering Begins -https://raw.githack.com/w3c/apa/charter-2021/charter.html -- taken up [from becky]
17:07:27 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: Some Personalization and Pronunciation info has been added. Please review (before the end of the month).
17:07:49 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:07:49 <Zakim> agendum 3 -- Task Force Updates -- taken up [from becky]
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17:08:20 <IanPouncey> present+
17:08:31 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/(before the end of the month)/(before next week)/
17:08:48 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: Personalization didn't meet (public holiday); getting ready for CR.
17:09:32 <Matthew_Atkinson> Paul: Making progress on draft towards FPWD. Seeking partners/implementors to demonstrate the case. Need browsers' help to provide the needed info in the accessibility tree.
17:10:19 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:10:19 <Zakim> agendum 4 -- FAST Progress -- taken up [from becky]
17:10:52 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, close this item
17:10:52 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
17:10:53 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:10:54 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:10:54 <Zakim> 5. New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22 [from becky]
17:10:54 <Zakim> agendum 5 -- New Charters Review https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22Horizontal+review+requested%22%22 -- taken up [from becky]
17:11:52 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/Paul: Making/Paul: Pronunciation: Making/
17:12:33 <MichaelC> -> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/pe-2020.html PROPOSED Pointer Events Working Group Charter
17:14:26 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: We should comment that IndieUI is closed
17:14:46 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky & MIchael: Looks good to go.
17:14:57 <Matthew_Atkinson> Léonie: Will check with Patrick and confirm.
17:15:10 <MichaelC> -> https://w3c.github.io/charter-drafts/sw-2020.html PROPOSED Service Workers Working Group Charter
17:17:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael & Becky: this seems like a low-level API. (We don't need to be listed as a liaison.)
17:17:21 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: We'll get to review specs as they emerge.
17:17:50 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:17:50 <Zakim> agendum 6 -- new on TR http://www.w3.org/TR/tr-status-drafts.html -- taken up [from becky]
17:19:14 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: There are some from Internationalization that we are aware of and do not need to review.
17:20:13 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-cascade-5/ CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5
17:20:28 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/alreq-gap/ Arabic and Persian Gap Analysis
17:21:03 <MichaelC> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/responsible-use-spatial/ The Responsible Use of Spatial Data
17:21:04 <Matthew_Atkinson> Ian: We don't need to review CSS Cascading and Inheritance Level 5
17:22:00 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: Anything relevant in spatial data?
17:22:14 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: Could it be used to particularly identify a disability/assistive technology?
17:22:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: There are existing sections on privacy/ethics that seem to cover this. We know about beacons used as assistive tech; seem to be covered by the above.
17:22:56 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: Sounds OK. [no objections]
17:23:13 <Matthew_Atkinson> s/[no objections]/[no objections from group]]
17:23:21 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:23:21 <Zakim> agendum 7 -- CSS Checkin (Amy) https://github.com/w3c/css-a11y/issues -- taken up [from becky]
17:23:41 <Matthew_Atkinson> Becky: Amy sent regrets but posted to the list.
17:23:59 <becky> Box Model Module Level 3 (https://www.w3.org/TR/css-box-3/ appears to have no issues. There have only been a few additions since CSS2:
17:24:00 <becky> Adapting the prose slightly to account for vertical writing modes.
17:24:00 <becky> Cross-linking to relevant concepts in [css-break-3] and [css-backgrounds-3].
17:24:00 <becky> Defining the non-applicability of margin, padding and their longhands to ruby base containers and ruby annotation containers(at risk).
17:24:01 <becky> Providing a centralized common definition of keywords that reference the various box edges for use in properties defined outside this spec (e.g. background-clip) to avoid repetition (and the resulting inevitable synchronization errors).
17:25:22 <Matthew_Atkinson> Ian: Nothing APA-specific here.
17:25:41 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:25:41 <Zakim> agendum 8 -- Actions Checkin (Specs) https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/actions/open -- taken up [from becky]
17:26:08 <tink> q+ to update on the Pointer Events charter.
17:26:34 <becky> ack tink
17:26:34 <Zakim> tink, you wanted to update on the Pointer Events charter.
17:26:38 <Matthew_Atkinson> Léonie: Update, checked with Patrick and no APA-specific concerns in the Pointer Events charter.
17:26:47 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:26:47 <Zakim> agendum 9 -- Horizontal Review Issues Tracker https://w3c.github.io/horizontal-issue-tracker/?repo=w3c/a11y-review -- taken up [from becky]
17:27:14 <MichaelC> -> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/6218 Consider specifying heuristics for when <ul> represents a list
17:29:26 <Matthew_Atkinson> Léonie: This arose due to changes in VoiceOver's heuristics that removed list semantics in some circumstances (e.g. lists of one item). The question is should this be standardized as a browser heuristic. It is a relatively contentious issue. (Personal view: hearing there's a list of one item is not damaging. This is not harmful like layout tables are.)
17:29:36 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: Should we keep this as an issue that APA is tracking?
17:30:05 <Matthew_Atkinson> Léonie: It's worth following. There isn't much public data on this yet.
17:30:43 <Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: By default, the next time we'll see this issue is when it's concluded and proposed to be closed.
17:30:46 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:30:46 <Zakim> agendum 10 -- Other Business -- taken up [from becky]
17:31:08 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, close this item
17:31:08 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed
17:31:09 <Matthew_Atkinson> Zakim, next item
17:31:09 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
17:31:09 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, Matthew_Atkinson
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