<LisaSeemanKest> clear agenda
<LisaSeemanKest> regrets, roy, abi, ea
<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: kirkwood
Lisa: we have a quorum it seems
Lisa: first thing is action
items
... actions draft are done will do on list for others
<LisaSeemanKest> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2020Aug/0037.html
Lisa: sent to list to review on list
MC: may need to help out with
review its getting more structured
... there is a self review checklist which we should go
through
... i owe help with personlization tag review
LS: EO glosssary call is later
today, Rachel has orgainzed
... we have draft on process Rachel and I worked on it
... good for people to look at it, realize its augurst
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f4NhQMtQthDbShVje3evTqELBa9eR6eSyoA31Jjlgm4/edit#heading=h.38pppwromd4r
LS: process proposal link is in
google doc
... if anyone wants to comment that would be great to put on to
do list to review. need to give people two weeks
... wanted to ask WCAG about giving us issues soon
RM: i put on agenda week before and have an action to followup and to see if join thursday at 11 calls
<LisaSeemanKest> acxk j
LS: had in before then
JD: talking about content usable?
LS: yes
SL: that link is process for issues
LS: same page earlier on
... really good for everyone to revew it, hopefully for next
week or week after
... we have glossary, askin Jennie if process for feedback
JD: we started reviewing in group hopefully ready for next week
LS: requirments?
JD: yes
LS: look for essential
JD: we reviewed in other group as well
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AuM-06Alk5VgVgFPTsJD2DcadIrcGIRVDcNgFwPiQRc/edit#heading=h.hn6izv5ma2u
LS: could add to glossary?
JD: we could but Abby making it easy to find so didn’t want to add other things
LS: proposed other items
JD: above agreed definitions
LS: will add to those terms
... list of terms ideally in glossary and does it go before
November
SL: things that should be in before next release
JD: put in proposed terms and
terms before November
... we are working through things
LS: if people want to join should ask you
JD: yes anyone can join
LS: editorial review next thing
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/PlanningPage#Actions\
LS: link to list of actions for Betsy
BF: i took a stab at it trying to figure it out, edit within doc or take notes
LS: just take notes at this
point
... could you change version to the right one, Steve?
... there is a list of final edits, have to update links
... Steve can i have you update links?
... otherwise i’ll do it
BF: i have taken notes on it
LS: we have an action later
today
... haven’t seen it yet Steve?
JD: setup a time to go through instructions
LS: we’ll reach it next week
anyway
... ok for call next week?
... any no’s for next week??
... so yes on next week
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AuM-06Alk5VgVgFPTsJD2DcadIrcGIRVDcNgFwPiQRc/edit#heading=h.hn6izv5ma2u
LS: glossary believe Jennie
wanted to talk about memory and other. alternative definitions
might be good to add
... alternative versions rather than editing may be good
... if people go through put +1 in comments would be good
... let subteam where you stand
... if you can’t live with it, write the definition you can
live with and add source
... to help subteam
+1
JD: we did go through and added
insturctions from last meeting, and two or three sentence intro
should be ready for group next week. Just helping understand
internationlization piece will be coming
... like to start with mental health first
... Abby was proposing around mental health and wondering if we
need to have a definition or in glossary
LS: could we put a link
<Jennie> https://www.w3.org/TR/coga-usable/
<Jennie> Mental health issues can also result in cognitive difficulties, such as difficulty focusing, cognitive fatigue or reduced memory. Overall, by addressing barriers to accessibility for users with cognitive and learning disabilities, improvements to digital technologies can be achieved and there is the potential to improve user experience for everyone.
LS: we have same thing in many
places, considered about wether this defines it
... worth seeing if we have a good definition
... if we get stuck and can’t resolve should we remove?
JD: if we get stuck should we add what we have
LS: not sure we agree, maybe
should refer to paragraph
... i could probably live with it
JD: i will paste in both to get feedback from group
<Jennie> Mental health disabilities refer to conditions that disrupt a person's thinking, feeling, mood, ability to relate to others, and daily functioning. This includes anxiety, delirium, depression, paranoia, schizophrenia, and many other disorders. These conditions may cause difficulty focusing on information, processing information, or understanding it. In particular, medication for these disorders may have side effects including blurred vision, hand t[CUT]
<Jennie> impairments.
“Mental health disabilities commonly refer to condtions”
I would propose to that.
<Jennie> Mental health refers to our emotional, psychological, and social well-being. A Mental health impairment generally has some combination of disturbed thoughts, emotions, ability to relate to others, that impares daily functioning. Examples include depression, anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder
I like direction of second
JD: do you have a source LS?
LS: its in comment
JD: others with concern?
LS: silence as agreement
agreed
JD: wanted to make sure follow consensus process? do poll and send to list?
LS: agreement on list or on call, at end will need a CFC type email to include disability groups involved
+1
RM: my though to handle vote for each here
LS: agreement
JD: next time memory impairments
<Jennie> Memory impairments involve limited working and short-term memory, missing long-term memory, or limited ability to recall language. Brain injuries, dementia and learning disability are among many different causes of memory impairments.
JD: this one is in COGA closed item in definition
I would put aging rather than dementia
<Jennie> Memory impairments are where a person is unable to remember or recall bits of information or behavioral skills that are usually remembered. It can affect: ...
I would add when needed
“recall bits of information when needed” like the second
<Betsy_Furler> Could we replace buts
<Betsy_Furler> Bits with pieces
<Betsy_Furler> I would use pieces of information in a clinical report
JD: take to call with John abby and i and bring back
LS: need to talk about
edits
... Steve what is the process? managing changes.
SL: I should have list, wiki
page
... original idea to have somewhere to track in final edit
LS: yes
SL: porvded wiki page for this,
though we’d create gitbhub issue for this, but wasn’t Lisa
understanding
... wanted to clarify decision making process
LS: we have external comments on
issue list
... process we have to respond by certain date and these isses
clos on september 10
... some need smaller change, can go through on list, or right
to make editorial
SL: feel on list but feeling is
we don’t want to do that here
... but if add to wiki page but difficult to track
LS: last time we did google doc and brought to list
S: not an wiki
LS: correct because not easy to
track input and edits
... propose we have a google doc
... editorial content change we could mark with a color or
something.
... we could flag diffentaly for content apporval change rather
than edorial
RM: i like that process
JK: yes me too
SL: how do we do a change then?
LS: make a google doc. I want to change this sentence to read like this
RM: sounds sensible to me
... we will have ediroial meetings at 11
... will send an email
SL: yes agree with process
... make significant issues want to change
LS: anyone have a problem with process?
<Betsy_Furler> I’m fine with it
LS: will take action to make
google document for changes
... maybe a second google doc for big ticket items
<LisaSeemanKest> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/coga/wiki/List_for_final_edit
LS: Betsy you are reviewing final
list for edits
... its the 10th for issues
SL: wanted to clarify how with issues and wiki page, its a learning process
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