W3C

– DRAFT –
Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

11 June 2020

Attendees

Present
addison, atsushi, Bert, fsasaki, fuqiao, Richard
Regrets
-
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Meeting minutes

trackbot, prepare teleconference

<atsushi> (will move shortly...)

<atsushi> (need some time for joining webex from tablet...)

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items

https://‌www.w3.org/‌International/‌track/‌actions/‌open

action-916?

<trackbot> action-916: Richard Ishida to Publish lreq documents to tr as fpwd -- due 2020-06-04 -- OPEN

close action-916

<trackbot> Closed action-916.

action-917?

<trackbot> action-917: Richard Ishida to Reply to issue css 5068 on behalf of i18n saying we're satisified with the edit proposed -- due 2020-06-11 -- OPEN

Info Share

richard: should mention that we published 5 FPWD in addition to the simple ruby document

<r12a> Published as FPWD this week, so far:

<r12a> Ethiopic Layout Gap Analysis

<r12a> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌elreq/‌gap-analysis/

<r12a> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-elreq-gap-20200611/

<r12a> Dutch Gap Analysis

<r12a> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌eurlreq/‌gap-analysis/‌latn-nl-gap

<r12a> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-latn-nl-gap-20200623/‌index.html

<r12a> Georgian Gap Analysis

<r12a> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌eurlreq/‌gap-analysis/‌geor-gap

<r12a> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-geor-gap-20200611/

<r12a> Modern Greek Gap Analysis

<r12a> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌eurlreq/‌gap-analysis/‌grek-gap

<r12a> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-grek-gap-20200611/

<r12a> Hungarian Gap Analysis

<r12a> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌eurlreq/‌gap-analysis/‌latn-hu-gap

<r12a> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-latn-hu-gap-20200611/

richard: next tuesday targetting the remainining SIXTEEN
… slowed by needing to change a few to dynamic
… will prepare those and others for echidna in the future

richard: need to change URLs all over the place
… if we have a link needs to be pointed to TR version

RADAR Review

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-request/‌projects/‌1

addison: target next week for DID comments?

fuqiao: reviewed DID spec. didn't find any other issue.
… except one

Pending Issues

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending

richard: another info share. the tracker page has changed slightly
… column on left side with either pink or gray dot and column on right with different colored dots
… to address A11Y concerns

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌927

fuqiao: have a "normaliztaion" section but not Unicode n11n
… some requirements on casing of the DID
… DID is a URI scheme
… has a scheme name and method
… the scheme and method must be lowercase
… since they can only be ASCII
… if they add a link to the definition of lowercase it will be more clear

atsushi: DID scheme name and method name is defined as alphanumerical only
… no room to use UTF-8

fuqiao: they can't use non-ascii, right?

<xfq_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-did-core-20200421/#generic-did-syntax

atsushi: yes

fuqiao: 0x61 - 0x7a

richard: are we happy you can only use ASCII?

addison: good question?

fuqiao: not for human/end users to read

atsushi: they want to use part of URI

<xfq_> https://‌www.w3.org/‌TR/‌2020/‌WD-did-core-20200421/#the-role-of-human-friendly-identifiers

<xfq_> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-request/‌issues/‌120

addison: agree with comment

richard: point to whatwg or copy the definition? think the latter

addison, fuqiao: +1

<fsasaki> +1

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌924

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌923

fuqiao: raised an issue in the webapp repo
… webapp manifest has a name

<xfq_> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌manifest/‌issues/‌872

fuqiao: has name and description members
… has a way to specify lang/base dir for all members
… added a few more members also called name and description, but subitems
… don't apply to them
… kind of similar to that issue
… pub manifest provides way to set lang/dir on individual items
… they replied "not let perfect be enemy of the good"

<r12a> sounds like we need to address that comment by raising it formally

addison: similar comments about how manage language and direction
… comes from a chinese-specific base

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌922

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌921

<xfq_> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌miniapp/‌issues/‌59

should be 3 comments: one on length, one on definition of characters, and one on character set

richard: maybe unicode should be in the spec

addison: add an issue for that

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌920

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌919

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌918

richard: should there be auto? that can be the default

addison: okay

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌917

fuqiao: html has a default of ltr

richard: for historical reasons

fuqiao: also file 917 against webapp manifest

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌865

right Changes the location of the selected item(s) to the right.

addison: they don't have start/end, block-start/block-end

<xfq_> https://‌drafts.csswg.org/‌css-logical/

addison: I need to flesh out the comment more

Action: addison: flesh out issue 865 for re-review

<trackbot> Created ACTION-918 - Flesh out issue 865 for re-review [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-06-18].

right Changes the location of the selected item(s) to the right.

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌864

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌tt-reqs/‌issues/‌17

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌796

richard: this is part of your action on fingerprinting

keep until we respond

https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌i18n-activity/‌issues/‌607

https://‌github.com/‌whatwg/‌html/‌issues/‌4562

<r12a> https://‌github.com/‌whatwg/‌html/‌issues/‌4562

Action: addison: file miniapp issues looking at minutes for additional instructions

<trackbot> Created ACTION-919 - File miniapp issues looking at minutes for additional instructions [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-06-18].

AOB?

richard: another info share

<r12a> Inuktitut: https://‌twitter.com/‌r12a/‌status/‌1269872336418877441

richard: if you need to understand how inuktitut works and by extension the CANS script, here's some info

Summary of action items

  1. addison: flesh out issue 865 for re-review
  2. addison: file miniapp issues looking at minutes for additional instructions
Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl version 121 (Mon Jun 8 14:50:45 2020 UTC).

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