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13:49:26 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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13:49:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
13:49:32 <trackbot> Date: 11 June 2020
13:50:11 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2020Jun/0003.html
13:50:12 <agendabot> clear agenda
13:50:12 <agendabot> agenda+ Agenda and Minutes
13:50:12 <agendabot> agenda+ Action Items
13:50:12 <agendabot> agenda+ Info Share
13:50:12 <agendabot> agenda+ RADAR Review
13:50:14 <agendabot> agenda+ CSS Text Issue Review
13:50:16 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
13:50:17 <agendabot> agenda+ AOB?
13:50:23 <addison> agenda+ EAI and HTML
13:50:38 <addison> scribenick: addison
13:50:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
13:57:20 <addison> present+
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13:59:05 <addison> present+ fuqiao
14:00:45 <addison> present+ Richard
14:01:14 <atsushi> (will move shortly...)
14:02:27 <atsushi> (need some time for joining webex from tablet...)
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14:03:59 <addison> present+ atsushi
14:04:05 <addison> agenda?
14:06:14 <addison> present+ Bert
14:06:21 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:06:21 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda and Minutes" taken up [from agendabot]
14:06:34 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
14:06:34 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from agendabot]
14:06:40 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
14:07:22 <addison> action-916?
14:07:22 <trackbot> action-916 -- Richard Ishida to Publish lreq documents to tr as fpwd -- due 2020-06-04 -- OPEN
14:07:22 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/916
14:07:33 <addison> close action-916
14:07:34 <trackbot> Closed action-916.
14:07:55 <addison> action-917?
14:07:55 <trackbot> action-917 -- Richard Ishida to Reply to issue css 5068 on behalf of i18n saying we're satisified with the edit proposed -- due 2020-06-11 -- OPEN
14:07:55 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/917
14:08:03 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
14:08:03 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from agendabot]
14:08:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
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14:08:47 <addison> richard: should mention that we published 5 FPWD in addition to the simple ruby document
14:08:52 <fsasaki> present+ fsasaki
14:09:22 <r12a> Published as FPWD this week, so far:
14:09:28 <r12a> Ethiopic Layout Gap Analysis
14:09:28 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/elreq/gap-analysis/
14:09:28 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-elreq-gap-20200611/
14:09:36 <r12a> Dutch Gap Analysis
14:09:36 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/eurlreq/gap-analysis/latn-nl-gap
14:09:36 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-latn-nl-gap-20200623/index.html
14:09:38 <r12a> Georgian Gap Analysis
14:09:40 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/eurlreq/gap-analysis/geor-gap
14:09:42 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-geor-gap-20200611/
14:09:44 <r12a> Modern Greek Gap Analysis
14:09:46 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/eurlreq/gap-analysis/grek-gap
14:09:48 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-grek-gap-20200611/
14:09:50 <r12a> Hungarian Gap Analysis
14:09:52 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/eurlreq/gap-analysis/latn-hu-gap
14:09:54 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-latn-hu-gap-20200611/
14:10:00 <addison> richard: next tuesday targetting the remainining SIXTEEN
14:10:19 <addison> ... slowed by needing to change a few to dynamic
14:10:49 <addison> ... will prepare those and others for echidna in the future
14:10:55 <addison> agenda?
14:11:14 <addison> richard: need to change URLs all over the place
14:11:28 <addison> ... if we have a link needs to be pointed to TR version
14:11:54 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
14:11:54 <Zakim> agendum 4. "RADAR Review" taken up [from agendabot]
14:12:03 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/projects/1
14:13:03 <addison> addison: target next week for DID comments?
14:13:47 <addison> agenda?
14:14:06 <addison> fuqiao: reviewed DID spec. didn't find any other issue.
14:14:12 <addison> ... except one
14:14:35 <addison> Topic: Pending Issues
14:14:44 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apending
14:15:12 <addison> richard: another info share. the tracker page has changed slightly
14:15:39 <addison> ... column on left side with either pink or gray dot and column on right with different colored dots
14:15:46 <addison> ... to address A11Y concerns
14:16:29 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/927
14:17:16 <addison> fuqiao: have a "normaliztaion" section but not Unicode n11n
14:17:30 <addison> ... some requirements on casing of the DID
14:17:38 <addison> ... DID is a URI scheme
14:17:44 <addison> ... has a scheme name and method
14:17:51 <addison> ... the scheme and method must be lowercase
14:18:00 <addison> ... since they can only be ASCII
14:18:26 <addison> ... if they add a link to the definition of lowercase it will be more clear
14:18:43 <atsushi> q+
14:19:19 <addison> ack atsushi
14:19:38 <addison> atsushi: DID scheme name and method name is defined as alphanumerical only
14:19:52 <addison> ... no room to use UTF-8
14:20:03 <addison> fuqiao: they can't use non-ascii, right?
14:20:06 <xfq_> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-did-core-20200421/#generic-did-syntax
14:20:08 <addison> atsushi: yes
14:20:40 <addison> fuqiao: 0x61 - 0x7a
14:20:52 <addison> richard: are we happy you can only use ASCII?
14:20:58 <addison> addison: good question?
14:21:14 <addison> fuqiao: not for human/end users to read
14:22:06 <addison> atsushi: they want to use part of URI
14:22:11 <xfq_> https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-did-core-20200421/#the-role-of-human-friendly-identifiers
14:22:52 <atsushi> q-
14:23:50 <xfq_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-request/issues/120
14:26:06 <addison> addison: agree with comment
14:26:20 <addison> richard: point to whatwg or copy the definition? think the latter
14:26:44 <addison> addison, fuqiao: +1
14:27:07 <fsasaki> +1
14:27:16 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/924
14:29:30 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/923
14:30:15 <addison> fuqiao: raised an issue in the webapp repo
14:30:32 <addison> ... webapp manifest has a name
14:30:33 <xfq_> https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues/872
14:30:47 <addison> fuqiao: has name and description members
14:31:05 <addison> ... has a way to specify lang/base dir for all members
14:31:25 <addison> ... added a few more members also called name and description, but subitems
14:31:32 <addison> ... don't apply to them
14:31:59 <addison> ... kind of similar to that issue
14:32:16 <addison> ... pub manifest provides way to set lang/dir on individual items
14:32:28 <addison> ... they replied "not let perfect be enemy of the good"
14:33:12 <r12a> sounds like we need to address that comment by raising it formally
14:33:15 <addison> addison: similar comments about how manage language and direction
14:34:09 <addison> ... comes from a chinese-specific base
14:34:24 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/922
14:35:24 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/921
14:35:57 <xfq_> https://github.com/w3c/miniapp/issues/59
14:36:58 <addison> should be 3 comments: one on length, one on definition of characters, and one on character set
14:38:43 <addison> richard: maybe unicode should be in the spec
14:39:04 <addison> addison: add an issue for that
14:39:05 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/920
14:40:34 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/919
14:41:28 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/918
14:43:31 <addison> richard:should there be auto? that can be the default
14:43:43 <addison> addison: okay
14:44:01 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/917
14:44:39 <addison> fuqiao: html has a default of ltr
14:44:45 <addison> richard: for historical reasons
14:45:04 <addison> fuqiao: also file this against webapp manifest
14:45:16 <addison> s/this against/917 against/
14:46:21 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/865
14:47:46 <addison> right 	Changes the location of the selected item(s) to the right.
14:48:26 <addison> addison: they don't have start/end, block-start/block-end
14:49:03 <xfq_> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-logical/
14:49:19 <addison> addison: I need to flesh out the comment more
14:49:38 <addison> action: addison: flesh out issue 865 for re-review
14:49:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-918 - Flesh out issue 865 for re-review [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-06-18].
14:50:03 <addison> right 	Changes the location of the selected item(s) to the right.
14:50:11 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/864
14:50:40 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/17
14:50:58 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/796
14:51:42 <addison> richard: this is part of your action on fingerprinting
14:52:04 <addison> keep until we respond
14:52:20 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/607
14:52:55 <addison> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/4562
14:53:10 <r12a> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/4562
14:54:50 <addison> action: addison: file miniapp issues looking at minutes for additional instructions
14:54:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-919 - File miniapp issues looking at minutes for additional instructions [on Addison Phillips - due 2020-06-18].
14:54:57 <addison> Topic: AOB?
14:55:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
14:55:41 <addison> richard: another info share
14:55:49 <r12a> Inuktitut: https://twitter.com/r12a/status/1269872336418877441
14:56:24 <addison> richard: if you need to understand how inuktitut works and by extension the CANS script, here's some info
14:56:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate https://www.w3.org/2020/06/11-i18n-minutes.html addison
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