<janina> https://www.w3.org/wiki/2020_website_redesign/users
<Matthew_Atkinson> scribe: Matthew_Atkinson
<Rachael_> Current version of this document is at: https://raw.githack.com/w3c/coga/changes-after-0327/content-usable/index.html
<janina> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2020Apr/0002.html
Lisa: COGA has been working on a
large document covering several aspects of making content
usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities. It
covers design, use cases, patterns, other areas [links
above].
... the content is non-normative: it points at various things
that are known from research to work for different people, but
doesn't require particular approaches - user testing will show
what works for your users and it's fine to go with what you
know works for your users. It's not designed to give mandatory
requirements.
... the COGA team is seeking a wide review, and hoping to
publish it.
Rachael: COGA has been working iteratively on this; hoping to publish it as a final deliverable. It's informative, not normative, but COGA feels it would be widely useful and wants to publish later in the year (~August-September).
Janina: CfC URL can be found above; be sure to copy comments to COGA list.
JF: Worth asking Education and Outreach WG for a review of this document too.
Rachael: We'll be reaching out to them.
JF: Excited to read it; know it's been worked on for some time.
+1 :-)
Janina: *thinks the last publishing/review was ~5yrs ago* It's a good time for another wide review, and it will be a useful document.
Lisa: Now COGA is seeking CfC to
publish it and go to wide review stage. Then it will be sent to
many groups (including EO) for furtther comment and
review.
... *has got a lot of useful feedback when presenting the
document as part of talks etc.; good feedback from ATOS,
Google, etc.*
JF: +1. There's a lot to read, so wide review will be good. Urgest COGA to ask EO as early as possible.
Lisa: *notes current CfC is just for APA to publish, with further review/input to come soon after*
Irfan: targeting end of June to
publish Pronunciation technical document ~end of June. The
moving to WICG.
... two technical approaches; attribute model (from TextHelp)
already has implementation.
<Joshue108> https://github.com/w3c/apa/issues/83
<Joshue108> 4.4 Immersive personalisation #83
Janina: Personalization and Research Questions: the [above-linked] related issue was contributed to the XAUR recently.
<janina> Lisa, we lost your audio
Lisa: *has sent some use cases along*
Janina: We are planning to have
TPAC, in-person or virtually. The questions are the same: who
do we need to talk to; what do we need to talk to them about
and how much time do we need for the discussion?
... *asks APA as a whole to consider the above questions*
... One thing to discuss: there are sub knowledge domains vs.
knowledge domains e.g. different types of Chemistry have
symbols that have different meanings, depending on which area
of chemistry one considers. Something important to bear in mind
when defining lexicons.
... Another topic: FAST updates.
<MichaelC> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/review-drafts/2020-01/
This was nominally assigned to me (update forthcoming in future section).
<janina> scribe: janina
matthew: Has looked at identified
a11y prs and not found issues
... will continue at the remaining commits. Don't seem to be as
many as last time
... will focus on a11y identified items first--about ten of
those
<MichaelC> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/5464
<Matthew_Atkinson> This was an issue that I thought _may_ warrant a note in the spec to let content authors know that screen reader users could encounter a problem. I am inclined to leave it to the WHATWG accessibility team to decide if it's apt for the spec.
<Matthew_Atkinson> Hoping that some in the WHATWG accessibility team (knowing the spec more than I) may mention either way.
<Matthew_Atkinson> Janina: would be nice to get an opinion; not sure if it's urgent.
<Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: suggests tracking it, but not making it blocking.
<Matthew_Atkinson> Janina: *agrees*
<Matthew_Atkinson> +1
<LisaSeemanKest> need to step away. thank you all
<Matthew_Atkinson> Michael: TTML comments - several accessibility-related were filed. Gottfried provided some feedback.
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