<kaz> scribenick: zkis

Agenda

Sebastian: agenda bashing
... Jaime please make an introduction

Jaime: worked with various protocols and data models (LwM2M, CoAP, IPSO, ...)

Review minutes

<kaz> Mar-25 minutes

Sebastian: reviewing past minutes
... any objections?

[no objections, minutes approved]

Virtual F2F minutes

Sebastian: asking task forces if they approved the past minutes from the virtual F2F

[all approved]

<kaz> Day 1

<kaz> Day 2

<kaz> Day 3

<kaz> Day 4

Quick updates

Sebastian: DST changed in EU, meetings back to normal

McCool: we should go through the meetings and check if calendar invites need updating

Zoltan: we should mention UTC times for info

Koster: the invite is based on Boston time zone
... as a group we could decide to stick to UTC, but would cause problems to people who use W3C time (US eastern time)

Lagally: UTC is more used globally than Eastern Time

McCool: this is W3C policy

<kaz> Note on the Architecture call

Kaz: agree with McCool
... UTC is fine but we could not resolve the whole issue (DST differences)
... using UTC would be very useful for countries without DST but not for US or European countries
... we should be clear about when the time zones change

McCool: the least confusion would be to use the W3C policy, i.e. Boston time as reference

Zoltan: just include UTC as well in the invite :)

<kaz> time&date including UTC :)

Kaz: pasted a converter link including UTC for convenience

Sebastian: it's always a mess anyway, so we need to take care to organize

McCool: will send invites

Sebastian: Singapore GovTech call?

McCool: we went to 2 weeks cadence

Sebastian: news about the PoC with Conexxus?

McCool: some internal meetings, more info later

REC transition

Sebastian: we have approval
... to make a public REC

Transition request

Lagally: what changes are planned for the press release?

Sebastian: next topic

Press release

Sebastian: Alan Bird provided new version

<kaz> proposed draft

<kaz> remaining issues

McCool: everyone who made testimonial should review
... we could mention languages and frameworks like Python, node-js

Sebastian: MK mentioned to be working on a testimonial?

Koster: will confirm later this week

Sebastian: ML, did that answer the question?

Lagally: yes
... concerned about the delays

Sebastian: April 9 is still OK?

Lagally: yes

McCool: the question is the deadline for testimonials etc

Sebastian: we could have a testimonial on a later day

Koster: could give a proposed text and then tell when it's approved

McCool: made a placeholder for SmartThings

Sebastian: we are also waiting for Mozilla's statements

McCool: trying to figure out whom to talk to
... to check can we mention their implementation

Sebastian: will contact also other people from Mozilla IoT

Kaz: we can add testimonials at any point, of course it's nice to have everything by one go, but we can include them also later

F2F planning

Sebastian: we will have a virtual F2F instead of Helsinki

McCool: the final resolution is not yet made
... did we check with Aalto?

Zoltan: not yet
... it is expected the epidemic still be there in June

McCool: then we can make the decision about virtual F2F

Sebastian made a proposal

<sebastian> proposal: due to the corona situation, the Helsinki f2f meeting will be a virtual f2f meeting

[no objections]

RESOLUTION: due to the corona situation, the Helsinki f2f meeting will be a virtual f2f meeting

Ege: regarding T2TRG, what about the annual event on April 9?

Koster: there will be a CoRE meeting together with T2TRG
... with hackathon, interop testing etc
... at least personally I am interested

McCool: let's discuss this in the Plugfest call
... we could insert this into our event list

Sebastian editing the WoT WebConf wiki

Events section

Kaz: why don't we add past and future events?
... as separate sections?

Sebastian: right now?

<mjk> https://github.com/t2trg/wishi/wiki/Agenda-items

<mjk> April 9th (Thursday), 7:00-11:00 PDT (16:00-20:00 CET, 14:00-18:00 UTC)

McCool: let's discuss the details in the Plugfest call

Sebastian: please register to these events

node-wot

Sebastian: there was a question if there should be a separate meeting for that?
... it is developed under the Eclipse Foundation, there is no agreement with W3C yet

Kaz: we should discuss this in marketing call for liaison with Eclipse, and in the plugfest/testing call for the technical issues

McCool: we need some developer support and outreach
... there have been requests for that
... so we need to figure that out
... agreed we should discuss under marketing

Task force updates

Zoltan: discussed Events, semantic API (needs developer feedback)
... also how to expose values (mediaType etc)

Sebastian: will join the next meeting

Lagally: on the Thing Template we already had a discussion in Architecture
... we align it there
... terminology should be agreed in Architecture, don't fragment the discussion

Sebastian: it's not about to make an agreement, just to understand
... the init dictionary etc

Lagally: sounds good

Koster: would like to follow up on TD templates vs fragments
... to say where do these come from

<mjk> ackm

Lagally: will discuss this in Architecture

<McCool> https://www.w3.org/2020/03/30-wot-sec-minutes.html

McCool: in security call discussed lifecycle
... we will follow up in Architecture, second call
... discussed the issue of keys and what kind of keys needed
... manufacturing, site, app keys

Zoltan: site keys are not standard terms

McCool: looked at PRs and merged Oliver's PR

<McCool> https://www.w3.org/2020/03/30-wot-discovery-minutes.html

McCool: in the Discovery call, we discussed Vorto
... related to templates and class definitions
... we could define TD templates for Vorto

Koster: they are more like type definitions

McCool: discussed models vs directory vs OpenAPI, edgeX, Vorto
... created issues

Koster: I requested some example Vorto definitions we could use

McCool: discussed node-wot run in Docker
... for the EdgeX use case

Sebastian: wondering if Vorto model would match our TD template?

McCool: the reason for partial TDs is search/discovery
... we want to do that
... the Vorto stuff is somewhat different

Koster: would be nice to have a serialization of models
... e.g. TD template being a serialization model

(Koster leaves)

McCool: the question is if we have a common model or are they in conflict
... if translation is possible
... we are currently discussing that

Lagally: in architecture first call, some bookkeeping, discussed TD template definition

Mar-26 Architecture minutes

Lagally: in the second call, discussed lifecycle, running out of time with that
... tomorrow we allocate the second call for that discussion
... in addition there are 3-4 PRs
... discuss use cases for media

Ege: about the plugfest call, we discussed about VPN setup, the use of node-wot in general
... we should find more people
... it's important to add features to node-wot

Sebastian: in marketing call, discussed the press release and web page
... in the TD call, discussed topics for the virtual F2F
... on efficient TD representations, by Taki and Daniel
... also about Events
... on the bindings call, no topics
... any final questions?

[adjourned]