W3C

- DRAFT -

WoT Marketing

26 Mar 2020

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Coralie, Kaz_Ashimura, Coralie_Mercier, Ege_Korkan, Alan_Bird, Michael_McCool, Taki_Kamiya, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Daniel_Peintner, Ryuichi_Matsukura, Tomoaki_Mizushima, David_Ezell
Regrets
Chair
Sebastian, McCool
Scribe
McCool, Kaz, Coralie

Contents


Agenda

<inserted> scribenick: McCool

Sebastian: reviews agenda

Taki: I have a PR as well that has been there for three weeks

Sebastian: ok

Coralie: has anyone talked to mozilla about a testimonial, eg David Baron

McCool: yes, but it was a while ago, and they would not have seen the latest draft
... so we should ask again, and share the draft press release

McCool: also, I asked Singapore but need to check back with them; will do so

Kaz: we also need to approve prev minutes

<kaz> https://www.w3.org/2020/03/12-wot-marketing-minutes.html

<kaz> https://www.w3.org/2020/03/19-wot-marketing-minutes.html

Press release

<koalie> draft press release: Solution for IoT Interoperability - W3C Web of Things (WoT)

<koalie> Previous proposed press release

<Alan> [to be clear, Coralie is the final decision in my mind}

scribenick: kaz

Kaz: has created a PR based on Alan's update: https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/46

scribenick: McCool_

McCool: (my comments, of which I typed many, were getting dropped by irc)
... (switching to McCool_ which seems to be working)

Sebastian: my proposal is that everyone needs a chance to talk to management and comment on latest draft
... let's aim to finalize April 2
... and then April 7 for release

Coralie: suggest April 9, need to do translations, and send Members the draft and request additional Testimonials

Sebastian: ok
... shall we do a resolution?

proposal: aim to finalize draft April 2, release April 9

Sebastian: a deadline will also put some pressure on testimonial providers... we should recontact the ones that are still on the s table

McCool: I will also update Singapore and Mozilla

Coralie: please give me until EOD to make some more changes

Sebastian: will also merge PR from kaz that reflects changes from coralie and alan
... any objections?
... hearing none, merging

<kaz> merged: https://github.com/w3c/wot-marketing/pull/46

Sebastian: let's also look at other PRs, eg from taki

<kaz> PR 44

Taki: not sure how much the draft has changed... but the para I was editing still seems to be there
... my PR was on the first sentence; mention cost reductions
... but also want to mention avoiding risk of lockin, etc

<kaz> Changes

Taki: some readers may thinking sticking with one ecosystem is safe...
... so want to point out that raises the risk of missing out on new innovations

Sebastian: I am ok with adding these aspects

McCool: coralie and alan's opinion?

Coralie: yes, it is good

McCool: I agree also

Alan: defer to coralie

Sebastian: any objection to merge from group?
... (no objections heard)
... I think this also makes sense
... propose that we integrate, but would ask taki to quickly fix the issue

Kaz: or create an updated pull request

McCool: but let's agree now that we will merge it as soon as taki fixes it

Sebastian: (types comment on decision to merge in PR)
... one other thing: quote from W3M; what is the timeframe for that?

Alan: jeff willing to provide a quote, but wanted to see final version
... and in particular wanted to see if there were other things with higher weight, eg Singapore
... if that happens, maybe put jeff's quote down at the bottom under "future work"
... I will work with Coralie and Jeff

proposal: aim to finalize draft April 2, release April 9
... aim to finalize draft April 2, release April 9; seek further testimonials
... aim to finalize draft April 2, release April 9; seek further testimonials and W3M quote
... aim to finalize press release draft April 2, release April 9; seek further testimonials and W3M quote

RESOLUTION: aim to finalize press release draft April 2, release April 9; seek further testimonials and W3M quote

Coralie: I will also look at "typo-fix" PR and apply them in my new updates

<koalie> [Alan Bird departs]

Twitter

scribenick: kaz

Sebastian: guidelines for following other people on Twitter?

Coralie: tx for asking
... basically, my answer is you can do whatever you want
... it's your choice to decide who to follow

Sebastian: ok

Coralie: good to follow those who follow you, though

Sebastian: tx for your help

Coralie: let me know if any further problems

Sebastian: any other questions?

(none)

Wikipedia

Ege: had no time to work on this
... some people from W3C had been working on Wikipedia articles
... got responses from the Wikipedia reviewers

Coralie: the Comm Team have given up to work on Wikipedia articles as they're rejected because we may not be objective enough. I recommend you get someone else to do the edits.
... we also got responses from the reviewers due to our Conflict of Interest (CoI)

<Mizushima> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Thing_Description

McCool: we have two entries, WoT and TD
... why don't we merge them?

Ege: possible

McCool: let's find somebody else who could work on this
... from non-participants
... not ideal solution, though

Sebastian: need to clean up the content, etc.?

<Mizushima> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_Things

Daniel: we need to find a right person as the Editor of the article

McCool: we have CoI
... should find a third party Editor

scribenick: koalie

Kaz: I talked to Manu about the jsonld article
... he confirmed he asked someone else to feed it

scribenick: kaz

Kaz: if we want, I can contact that person

Sebastian: Ege, can you add a sentence on TD to the JSON-LD article
... TD as an example of JSON-LD
... also provide a reference about the standard

<Mizushima> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON-LD

Kaz: shall I contact the guy suggested by Manu?

Sebastian: yes, definitely
... please ask that person about the latest Wikipedia guidelines/hits, etc.

Kaz: ok
... will do

<koalie> [Coralie departs]

Previous minutes

Mar-12 minutes

Sebastian: (goes through the Mar-12 minutes)

Taki: talked with the IETF contact on Link Smart
... can forward the information to you again

Sebastian: (adds the topic to the agenda for April 2)
... any objections to approve them?

(none)

Sebastian: approved!

Mar-19 minutes

Sebastian: next Mar-19 minutes
... (goes through the Mar-19 minutes)
... note that ICWE conf will be held as a virtual conf
... would like to submit some paper for its workshop on "WoT for Humans"
... any objections to approve these minutes?

(none)

Sebastian: approved!
... any other business for today?

(none)

[adjourned]

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

  1. aim to finalize press release draft April 2, release April 9; seek further testimonials and W3M quote
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