[McCool has some trouble with audio connection and joins the call only on the IRC for this call]
<kaz> Agenda
<kaz> scribenick: dape
Sebastian: meeting with Jeff, McCool,
Alan
... outcome: Alan reviewing current version
<McCool_> will let Alan summarize mtg
Alan: turn release around ... talk
more about business problems
... shorten text about technology
... lot of good content
... W3C will put quote in also
... so far I did not manage to work on it
... draft for next week
<McCool_> McCool: we basically proposed to delete the "deliverables" section
Alan: propose that members talk about products
<McCool_> I think we should also point at open-source projects, eg node-wot
Alan: would need support in this area from members
<McCool_> and pocs and deployments, like singapore, etc
<McCool_> ... maybe conexxus?
Alan: please send note to me if your company can share product infos
Kaz: Thank you, Alan!
... I've been also asking the group to work on the business merit
... I think we should need to think about the direction and what to be mentioned before generating concrte text
... We could include description about WoT's potential impact based on concrete use cases and services of the WoT technology
... as well as our PoC work (Plugfest) and exisiting implementations including node-wot as an opensouerce implemenation
<McCool_> McCool: we can certainly collect additional testimonials and writeups of specific deployment and product examples
<McCool_> and put those examples in the main text, not hidden down in testimonials
Alan: open source should definitley go in there
<McCool_> note that when I said PoC I did not mean plugfests, I meant things like Singapore and Conexxus, which maybe should be better called "early deployments"
Kaz: right. so we should clarify necessary components for the text and then think about the concrete text based on them
Sebastian: Siemens would like to name
the product were we use WoT
... with statement
... wonder a bit "what is a product"
... we have many implementations out there
... many EU projects using WoT
... not sure if we are aware of that
Alan: great
... please share pointers with me
Sebastian: Can we get testimonial from Govtech also, Jennifer?
Jennifer: Work on it
... no production projects though
Alan: That's fine
Sebastian: Jennifer, please also take a look what testimonials we have so far
JL: Yes, thanks
Alan: please send it to me and McCool
<McCool_> I will forward to the WoT Chairs list so kaz and sebastian will see it as well
<McCool_> and make a PR
<McCool_> to add it to the press release...
Sebastian: Plan so far: Alan working on
updates
... tackle it next week again
<McCool_> it should not change in eastern time, it only changes in europe
Alan: Thursday 26 is fine.. please share time with me
Kaz: 9am Eastern on March 26
Alan: Thank you
Sebastian: will share information what I mentioned before
Alan: Thanks, bye
<inserted> (Alan leaves)
Sebastian: We have twitter account
... W3C_WoT account
Sebastian: how should we do with the
"following" on Twitter
... W3C policy?
<McCool_> well... who will read it if we follow people?
Ege: CSS 40,000 followers, 60 following
<McCool_> I think we probably want to follow things that we might forward only, eg w3c main accounts
Ege: don't really follow many
<McCool_> but not just everyone who follows us
Ege: similar to W3C twitter account
Sebastian: Suggest following WoT and W3C members
<McCool_> again, we should follow only things we might want to forward
Sebastian: is there a guideline
<McCool_> or respond to with comments
Kaz: Suggest to discuss it with Coralie
Sebastian: Shall we invite her?
<McCool_> McCool: +1 on talking to Coralie
Kaz: there is already a dedicated email thread with Coralie about how to deal with the WoT Twitter account.
... so I'd suggest we continue to talk with her on that email thread
Ege: will contact Coralie
... What about liking, re-tweeting .. will ask about
guidelines
<McCool_> I think we may want to arrange for a reasonable level of activity
<McCool_> ... maybe summarizing main call each week?
<McCool_> ... at least, just so it's not stale
Sebastian: We know some of the
organizers
... in conjunction with ICWE
<McCool_> is this WoT the same as ours?
<McCool_> ... it seems like it might be a completely independent thing with the same name, which is not that good... do we know?
Sebastian: think about collaboration,
key note, .. present our work
... can contact organizer
... need to clarify whether there will be a physical F2F
<McCool_> can you please share the link?
<kaz> Workshop on WoT for Humans
<McCool_> ok, thx for the link
Ege: participate in their workshop or vice-versa?
Sebastian: Not sure...
... will try to find out more
<sebastian> https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/
Sebastian: new action item, embed "our" twitter account
Daniel: can do so
Sebastian: Should work on getting started
Kaz: we should not use the term, "landing page", for this page, because there is a "WoT landing page" on the W3C server already
... maybe we could use "WoT portal page" or "WoT main page" instead
<McCool_> suggest "main entry point" or "wot portal"
<McCool_> "main page" is ok
Sebastian: WoT main page ?
Kaz: mean when we call/point to this page it should be clear what we mean
Sebastian: Getting started: Some input
from myself and Michael Lagally
... not very happy
... would like to have a beginners page
... like the idea having a video
<McCool_> some people like video, some like text
<McCool_> but I do think the text needs to be shorter, and the page more "graphical;
Sebastian: Christian joined some weeks ago talking about wine producer.. using this story?
Kaz: liked Christian's slide
... suggested we include his content to this page
Sebastian: need nice story or
use-case
... would like to ask a professional video maker later on
... need agreement on use case first
Ege: w.r.t. listing use-cases:
similar to conferences listing all topics in the world...
... agree it is applicable to a lot.. but listing all looks
imprecise
Sebastian: Can you to create issue about your concern
<McCool_> but i agree, the issue is the list does not really add information, just noise
Sebastian: all: please take a look at
the website and provide comments
... Cool video sounds attractive to me
<McCool_> McCool: as long as we don't do JUST a video; webcomic is a good idea
[adjourned]