Meeting minutes
<Caroline> zakim pick a vitim
<Caroline> zakim pick a victim
admin
proposed: approve minutes of last meeting
<PWinstanley> +0 (not there)
<Ana> +1
0 (not here)
<Caroline> +1
<plh> +1
<annette_g> +0, not there, though I'm sure it was fabulous
<alejandra> +1
Resolution: approve minutes of last meeting
DCAT publicity
need to review spreadsheet; put yourself on to send emails, contact folks
<alejandra> It is the same spreadsheet we had before - put together by the group
any comments?
just a reminder for those who haven't gotten to this yet
<annette_g> I can't edit the Gdoc
Caroline: also let us know if you have papers, conferences, etc.
… blog post has been translated to Portuguese and posted
DCAT3
Caroline: many issues to resolve
… split the repo?
… much discussion on email; no consensus yet
<Caroline> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/1216
<annette_g> (the new link works, thanks)
kcoyle: I was looking at the amount of the overlap we have on the issues. Because there are concerns that if we split we will lose connections
… I will continue to try to make sense of that
<kcoyle> kcoyle: split will be less difficult if there is not much overlap
Caroline: other comments? don't seem to be ready to vote on this
?+
<alejandra> https://twitter.com/alegonbel/status/1224806505586753537
alejandra: think we need to try splitting; also, did a twitter thread about DCAT publicity
Caroline: asks Alejandra if she thinks we should try
alejandra: yes, we can fork the repo and we don't lose anything; start with one document
… move issues;
annette_g: experiment to find out how difficult it is
<alejandra> we are also missing some people in this call
kcoyle: we could do a pool about it
… I am wondering where are we with the conneg?
Caroline: good question but no answer at this moment
kcoyle: shall we ask in an email? Caroline thinks there already was one
Action: on kcoyle, ask about conneg in an email
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Action: kcoyle, ask about conneg in an email
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Action: PWinstanley set up poll about trying split
<trackbot> Created ACTION-396 - Set up poll about trying split [on Peter Winstanley - due 2020-02-18].
<Caroline> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2020Jan/0142.html
RDA versioning proposal
<kcoyle> kcoyle: some folks are connected to the RDA group
<kcoyle> PWinstanley: possibly Simon
alejandra: no discussion at recent European meeting (is this right?)
Caroline: maybe we can connect with them and see what interaction makes sense
… can someone take this action?
… shall we ask Simon? (We could give him an action ;-)
Action: PWinstanley to initiate contact with RDA
<trackbot> Created ACTION-397 - Initiate contact with rda [on Peter Winstanley - due 2020-02-18].
DCAT "future work" issues
<Caroline> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/27
Caroline: Alejandra created the milestone document
alejandra: created initial milestones; Riccardo and Andrea have added more issues, those
… tagged with feedback (although most are editorial)
… Andrea tagged some untagged issues
… issues around versioning, future work, and feedback
Caroline: alejandra you suggest that we deal with these issues first
alejandra: need to first prioritize the future work ones
… have called it DCAT3, FPWD
Caroline: yes, please continue with that
extract from UCR
Caroline: we talked about this last week. Extract those related to versioning, ...
plh: as for use cases and requirements in the evergreen situation
… (digging up slides)
Caroline: we talked last week about splitting up UCR document
plh: on slide 13 - to be a REC or not to be
… remember that evergreen is not yet adopted by W3C; and this group will need to adopt it
… slide 13 gives 3 options
… CR forever, doesn't move beyond that
… versions: you can publish DCaT3 same as was done for DCAT2
… third is rec forever; instead of publishing in stages you directly revise existing rec
… you don't have to go back to early stages (PWD); you have one single step
… that is only available in process2020
… if DCAT2 worked for you, do the same for DCAT3 (FPWD, etc.)
… if that is difficult you can do the 3rd option
… so, the question is? do you want a big version, or have more granularity
kcoyle: it seems the questions have to be about the users of DCAT
… it seems they should have a say in this
PWinstanley: my concern is the business about ? fatigue, and the other is that this
… could become a niche project of a small number of people; hard to get wide review
… it would be challenging to keep the energy behind a project that is ongoing
plh: peter, are you saying that he don't have the energy to do dcat3?
PWinstanley: I think we can do 3, but am not sure about 4 and 5 because it may become narrower
… difficult getting non-W3C folks to give the necessary feedback in the early stages
plh: one approach is like web application group - they have a scheduled approach
… each year they decide which properties will be added
… it gives them a focus on a reduced set of issues and a specific time
… you could decide that we will do DCAT3 in one year; and decide what will be in that
… and have it ready for fall
PWinstanley: that cadence sounds about right; needs to be balanced with the push
… to publish frequently. we realized that didn
… didn't work for use, to publish many small changes
… shorter than one year may not work
plh: ok, so decide a once a year version; work back from February to set milestones
… and dates; folks know that if they don't get their property this year that can look forward
… to the following year; and you can always decide that a version is an x.1
PWinstanley: if decision about changes has to do with support then there's likely to be broad
… review
Caroline: do we have to make a decision now? or should we first work on milestones and cases?
plh: first sort out issues - which are DCAT3, which are a later version?
PWinstanley: alejandra has already started this
alejandra: yes, I was thinking about FPWD, so what I've done is just the very first stage
Caroline: in the next meeting we can cover more with more of the editors here
<PWinstanley> bye!
<annette_g> bye all!
<Ana> thank you, bye