<kaz> scribenick: McCool

Webpage status

Sebastian: decision to move information to the marketing repo
... in particular the draft web site

Daniel: created a pr to move content from my repo to the "w3c/wot-marketing" repo
... moving to the docs folder
... but we need the administrator to configure github to allow it to render
... kaz needs to do it

<kaz> PR 21

Daniel: need to select the publishing source, 3rd option, master branch docs folder

Sebastian: suggest that we go ahead and do this

Kaz: no objection from me but we should make a resolution; normally we simply use the master branch for gh-pages but this time we would like to use "master branch's /docs sub folder" specifically for the "wot-marketing" repo

proposal: use master/docs for website working material

Daniel: reason is that there is a lot of clutter otherwise

RESOLUTION: use master/docs for website working material

Kaz: now, the question is what to do first
... I thought we could merge the pullrequest first and then change the gh-pages setting later
... but do we need/want to change the gh-pages setting before the merge?

Daniel: it would be better to change the gh-pages setting first

Sebastian: kaz, would you mind doing it now? need to create docs folder first?

Kaz: checking the gh-pages setting menu but right now docs folder is greyed out

McCool: probably need to merge first

Sebastian: ok, merging then....

<dape> https://w3c.github.io/wot-marketing/

Daniel: should be visible at the above url

Kaz: ok, I've just changed the setting for gh-pages to "master branch's /docs folder"

Sebastian: ok, does not show up yet, though

(it takes some time for github.io to reflect the changes)

Daniel: we may need to do some more configuration, e.g., Jekyil
... is it ok if I do it right away, or do you want another pr?

Sebastian: should be ok to do it right away

Daniel: ok, I will work on it

Sebastian: in the meantime, let's go to the next topic...

Kaz: before that, we should review the previous minutes

Sebastian: ok

Review previous minutes

<kaz> Jan-30 minutes

Sebastian: any objections to accepting these minutes
... and making them available to the public?
... (reviews minutes)
... hearing no objections, these will go public

Wikipedia

Sebastian: Ege, any updates?

Ege: did some work, but nothing significant enough to ask for a new review

Sebastian: alan, do you have any experience with wikipedia?
... we are trying to create a new entry for TDs, but was rejected twice
... have been asked to provide more references and more reliable references
... can you take a look and give us some feedback?

Alan: I don't have any direct experience, but I will take a look; what are they saying?

Ege: is there someone else in w3c that can help us?

Alan: ok, I will work with coralie to see what we can come up with
... we need people outside of our immediate work group

Kaz: thought Ege would work on these, but if we need help from other groups we could just talk with them directly, e.g., the Chairs of the JSON-LD WG

Alan: as McCool said, need references from outside w3c

Ege: I did put some, but not considered reliable or in-depth enough

McCool: for reliable, probably need to be peer-reviewed; for in-depth, needs to be more than a passing mention

WoT for beginners

Sebastian's slides on "WoT for beginners"

Sebastian: I have prepared a simple slide deck
... have defined a user, and a task: integrate a lamp with a smart home
... but have an issue; different protocols, options for connecting
... starts to google, finds some information, but it's very complicated
... data models, protocols, etc.
... but finds a TD, this gives all the datamodels and protocols in one place
... finds some tools and tutorials she can use
... and then says it can be used in other domains, industry, smart cities, etc.
... just consider this a starting point

McCool: I think we should spell out two key use cases: documentation, and automation

Alan: a couple more use cases would be helpful; what form are these slides

McCool: possible to share via github?

Sebastian: sure, still very early draft

Alan: better than what I have now
... like it, very clear, very basic

McCool: I think this is a good user-oriented deck; for standards group, there is another "summary" deck I should add
... propose we create a wot-marketing/presentations directory

<Alan> +1 to managed directory of presentations

McCool: and have a small number of decks there with clear purposes
... I will put in my "WoT Summary" deck as well

Kaz: yes, this kind of story and scenario is very useful especially for our 2nd-generation use case discussion as well as the upcoming press release

Upcoming events

Alan: two events coming up
... one committment: Industry of Things World USA

<Alan> https://www.industryofthingsworldusa.com/sessions/group-b-4-standards-cafe-how-standards-help-us-all-get-along-in-the-new-playground-of-big-data/

Alan: they want us to run a "standards cafe"
... great chance for us to gather some input
... will be talking to the organizers this week; frame it

McCool: maybe we can work on this in our 1:1 tomorrow

Sebastian: siemens will also be giving a presentation at this event, will be talking about WoT
... Florian Michahelles, located in Berkeley
... should synchronize
... will send an introduction email right after call

Alan: two weeks after that, IoT Tech Expo in London

<Alan> https://www.iottechexpo.com/global/speakers/

Alan: Dave Raggett and Alan Bird will attend
... have been invited to a number of panels

McCool: any speakers who are also WoT members?

<Alan> Zafer Sahinoglu - Mitsubishi

Alan: hmm... Mitsubishi is

McCool: we should ask our contacts then

<Alan> John Candish - SAP

McCool: also sigfox

Alan: please take a look, and if there is anyone you want me to reach out to, please let me know
... once we know topics we will register in W3C talk database
... should register the Siemens talk as well in IoTWorld

<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to point out there is somebody from KDDI as well and to

Kaz: also seems to be someone from KDDI in IoT Tech Expo

McCool: we need to make sure that we make connections within partner companies as well
... also IETF and the Helsinki conferences

<kaz> Helsinki f2f wiki

Sebastian: I am also invited to a conference in Germany, "Building IoT", topic is IoT and Industrie 4.0
... event is organized by an IoT publisher; Kaiser

<sebastian> https://www.buildingiot.de/index.php?source=0

<sebastian> https://www.buildingiot.de/lecture.php?id=10855&source=0

Kaz: didn't we have a wiki page with target events?
... maybe this kind of information could go in the wot-marketing repo

McCool: yes; and in fact, is there not a wiki page associated with the repo we could use?

Sebastian: we should use these tools
... we should also consider getting blog posts, etc.

McCool: suggest we discuss blogs, articles, etc in the next call

Sebastian: (adds to agenda for next call)
... any other business?

Ege: also, for next week: twitter account

Kaz: will talk to other chairs about wikipedia, etc.
... will loop in mccool and seb

<kaz> ACTION: kaz to talk with CSS Chairs about twitter usage and JSON-LD Chairs about wikipedia article

<kaz> [adjourned]