<LisaSeemanKest> ACTION: lisa make scribe list
<trackbot> Created ACTION-320 - Make scribe list [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2020-01-16].
<LisaSeemanKest> scribe: stevelee
Rac: CSUN meetup consensus was there's not a good time to meet but will overlap with last 2 hours of Silver meeting on Tues pm
for discussions and then dinner later
may be do a Face to face over dinner
<Rachael> ACTION: rachael to send out agenda when available
<trackbot> Created ACTION-321 - Send out agenda when available [on Rachael Montgomery - due 2020-01-16].
MC: Silver will put a wiki page in time with a schedule on
Lisa: we could create our own Coga wiki page if required
MC: not sure of Silvers dinners plan and suggest we do not aim to discuss business
Lisa: May need to renew our membership as AG group has rechartered, especially agree patent waiver stuff
<Jennie> I already completed mine.
to check if need to rejoin - https://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/35422/status
<MichaelC> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2019OctDec/0172.html
mc: AGWG are not meting at CSUN but planning a virtual F2F meeting due around 24/25 March
Rachael: this will be largely to discuss WCAG 2.2 so anyone working on an SC might want to be available
to discuss their SC with the group
<Fazio> I thought I finished the mental health paper
<LisaSeemanKest> steve will review and look for missing userneeds
<LisaSeemanKest> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G9SJSiAT-SYDVNxBfwOe7A6VPqsmX4Ua0QT7-NrfQTA/edit#heading=h.rpstiea4qz2r
<LisaSeemanKest> Jennie will review and look for missing userneeds (1-2 weeks)
Steve will review the mental heath issue paper as will John and Jennie
Rachale added to google Doc
Steve progressing .Personal / Patterns review
Lisa to edit based on EA etc comments
<Fazio> I did minimum number of steps on our last editors call
Jenni completed task
<Rachael> Jenni: Should we divide the label conversation into 3 separate parts: Labels present need to be read by AT, Labels need to be visible, Labels need to be nearby
<Rachael> Jennie: Right now the SC requires machine readable but it is not always readable by all AT.
<Rachael> Lisa: May be an AT problem.
<Rachael> Jennie: Are these design patterns just for the HTML or also for the AT?
<Rachael> Lisa: This is for the developers but that should go in the tables for AT/gap analysis that they need to read titles
<Rachael> Jennie: Do we need something that articulates the difference between a robust screen reader and the needs of those with cognitive disabilities? That is an area of confusion I run into frequently?
<Rachael> Lisa: Readable by simple ATs?
<Rachael> ...we can ask that
<LisaSeemanKest> clear lables, plain text, near by, and readable by simple ATs
Various people volunteered to look at missing pattern - see palnning page
<Rachael> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Upcoming_agendas#Jan_7th_.28AC_chairing.29
lisa: we could add a personal quote for each persona
rachael it should their challenges it short quote to help developers emphasise
lisa: also need images but must be CC and themed
perhaps photos?
:rachael: do we have a template for permission to use photos of people
MC: not aware of any but we can ask.
RSSAgent, make minutes public
<LisaSeemanKest> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/wiki/Teleconference_cheat_sheet��
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