Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

25 Jul 2019



Bert, David, Fuqiao, Katy, Richard, addison, atsushi, r12a, xfq
Addison Phillips


trackbot, prepare teleconference

<agendabot> clear agenda

<scribe> scribenick: addison

<atsushi> (possible regrets for next week, just memo..)

Agenda and Minutes

Action Items



<trackbot> action-812 -- Richard Ishida to Investigate situation for accesskey including wording and tests and report back -- due 2019-07-25 -- OPEN

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/812

Info Share

<xfq> https://www.w3.org/2019/09/TPAC/travel.html



RADAR and Active Work Review

<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish tips for linking to headings and figures for wide review

<trackbot> Created ACTION-815 - Publish tips for linking to headings and figures for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2019-08-01].

richard: working on article on making LTR text appear/display RTL
... such as chinese or (ancient) egyptian
... still a few little things to do

Continuing Review of HTML/WhatWG issues

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/719

richard: could us a bit of help
... about case sensitivity
... the whatwg says "... must be case sensitive..."
... wrote exploratory test

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-tests/html/editing/assigning-keyboard-shortcuts/the-accesskey-attribute/exp_accesskey_000

richard: very simple but effective test. type a value and then hit with various modifier keys
... possible to find keys that are case *IN*sensitive in English
... haven't done windows
... greek, different results in FF and safari
... safari case sensitive
... ff doesn't recognize uppercase
... examples in doc violate it... most shortcut keys you see are "uppercase" but you don't press shift to get

addison: corner cases if insensitive (turkish)

david: would accents be stripped?

richard: how would uppercase e-acute work in french?

addison: what to do? file or bring in more accesskey issues?

richard: what to recommend?

addison: insensitive with health warning?

richard: waiting on addison to do tests
... will submit after we have results

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/720

richard: one code point issue
... how many code points can you have? our question was: why restriction?
... restrict value to single keypress instead?
... some keyboards have keys that produce multiple code points. Burmese, Devanagari
... safari, chrome quite happily accept those keys as accesskeys

addison: they're trying to convey the concept rather than a tech requirement
... submit?

richard: okay
... summarize at end

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/521

<xfq> New abstract: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/3829#issuecomment-513590636

<scribe> New abstract reads: CSS Writing Modes Level 3 defines CSS support for various writing modes and their combinations, including left-to-right and right-to-left text ordering as well as horizontal and vertical orientations.

<atsushi> +1 to close

RESOLUTION: close 521

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/157

richard: raise as a question?

<scribe> ACTION: richard: raise issue 157 with whatwg as a question

<trackbot> Created ACTION-816 - Raise issue 157 with whatwg as a question [on Richard Ishida - due 2019-08-01].


Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish tips for linking to headings and figures for wide review
[NEW] ACTION: richard: raise issue 157 with whatwg as a question

Summary of Resolutions

  1. close 521
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