<janina> scribe: Matthew_Atkinson
JF: Joined a Conversational
    Interfaces WG call earlier, they are developing an authoring
    standard for bots.
    ... This includes animating the bots; accessibility was raised
    and now they're looking into audio description, alternative
    text and other possibilites.
Janina: if it's conversational UI, then we need to help users who are D/deaf, hard-of-hearing or may have other disabilities.
JF: Bot output is expected to be
    captured as a text string, so can be exposed to assistive
    technologies.
    ... (gives example of a bot that's a bunny, who is hopping
    about the screen - the animations need to be described)
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-apa-admin/2019Jun/0000.html
Janina: (reminds everyone of Joshue's CFC regarding Web of Things accessibility)
<JF> Email quote from the participant: Accessibility concerns have typically been an after-thought in most systems, and this is one of those rare opportunities to address these guidelines from inception.
Janina: direct accessibility to the graphics in the doc would be good (APA may be able to help)
Janina: RQTF believes this is
    ready for wide review.
    ... propose CFC soon; need to run some checks first (e.g. link
    checker); also need a URI for the CFC.
Janina: proposed Sunday for CFC
    for CAPTCHA doc; no opposition in group.
    ... TPAC early-bird deadline is this Friday
    ... Meeting with DPUB on Monday.
    ... will be working on agenda more soon.
    ... (aspirationally by July, for joint sessions)
Janina: RQTF & Josh are working on WebRTC and WoT.
Irfan: Pronounciation work progressing; further update next week.
Janina: Personalization FPWD progressing. CFC expected soon.
Michael: Privacy IG - APA has a
    deliverable of theirs under review.
    ... APA would like a liaison statement with the Privacy IG.
Janina: fingerprinting is an
    issue that we think about a lot, so it would be good to have a
    liaison with the Privacy IG about this.
    ... Michael: (looking for feedback/views from APA on this)
Michael: AG WG is open; also Data Models for Transportation (was OK).
Michael: Janina: we have a CFC running on WoT ThingDescription.
Joshue: would be good for APA to
    look more at the WoT architecture document.
    ... (it's currently in CR; takes action to review
    it)
<Joshue108> ACTION: Josh to review WoT Architecture
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2198 - Review wot architecture [on Joshue O Connor - due 2019-06-26].
<MichaelC> action-2198: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Web_of_Things_(WoT)_Architecture
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2198 Review wot architecture.
<MichaelC> action-2198: https://www.w3.org/TR/wot-architecture/
<trackbot> Notes added to action-2198 Review wot architecture.
Janina: are there concerns about tracing: it may be possible to determine that an AT is running, but not necessarily who the user is - though are there other ways to identify users?
Joanie: need to verify that IP addresses are not included in the trace.
JF: People may be connected to the Internet via a different IP over time/location. It is a reasonable point, but there are concerns above and beyond just IP address (as it's not necessarily a stable variable).
Janina: from CAPTCHA research, if someone has a customary IP address, they may still be tracked.
JF: agrees that malicious use of
    IP addresses is a concern. There are other ways to track and
    possibly errantly infer user info. Gives example of a
    screen-reader running on a common computer that changes a
    system setting, which causes any user of the system to be
    considered as having a vision impairment.
    ... Also GPS info may be used to track someone.
    ... Perhaps we could tag/flag the spec to indicate that there
    are privacy/security concerns that are implicit and thus
    implementors need to be aware of the ramifications [open
    question]?
Michael: Do/can we have a comment we can make to the WG (and maybe others in future) regarding ATs and fingerprinting? Not sure if we have anything we can request on this document right now?
Janina, Michael: (will re-read the Tracing spec and get back to the authors as to whether there are any accessibility concerns shortly)
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