<scribe> scribe: TK
<scribe> scribeNick: taki
<McCool> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#29_May_2019
McCool: rechartering IG
... sent request for nomination.
... want to confirm if we received all nominations including
externals
... currently 3 requested for IG charter
... please send your request immediately.
Legally: Please put me tentatively.
McCool: there was a confusion about IG and WG.
Lagally: I suggest to keep open WG positions for now.
McCool: We can discuss WG positions in workshop.
Matthias: we are seeking one new
comer.
... big point about workshop is getting new people.
... it is about candidates.
... to show management that people currently not active now is
welcome for candidates.
Kaz: as W3C process document
states, W3C director appoints chairs.
... However, group's suggestion is welcome.
... chair's role is defined by chair's guideline.
... we used to have 3 co-chairs. Usually W3C director suggests
one chair or 2 co-chairs.
<kaz> Chairs role guide
<kaz> multiple Chairs guide
McCool: so we collection a pool of candidates.
Sebastian: IG/WG, completely separate?
Matthias: we never stated people
has to be same.
... one chair do both chairs was considered reasonable that time.
RESOLUTION: add Michael Lagally to the list of proposed co-chairs for the proposed IG charter
Sebastian: +1 to add Lagally to the candidate list.
McCool: there are no objections.
McCool: you need to register and
describe demo logistics.
... any comments about workshop?
Lagally: if you are a speaker,
please submit slides by Monday.
... we have a dedecated laptop for presentation.
... also one or two page slides for demo.
Sebastian: I picked all posters provided. they are going to be printed.
McCool: deadline passed?
Sebastian: Yes.
Ege: preparation day. Has
everybody registered for preparation day?
... The page is same as F2F.
McCool: Please print out the letter and bring with you.
<McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-7_June_2019,_Munich,_Germany#Agenda
McCool: Two days.
... Major task is WG rechartering.
... If there are other things that are important, please bring
them.
... we want to leave a bit early on Friday.
... Agenda point includes report from workshop...
... gather requirements for the charter. scope, liaison,
etc.
... charter draft will be presented on Friday.
... Mozilla can join by phone on Friday.
Matthias: It was Dave who had time constraints.
McCool: Friday, there are two
hours, we can spent for test report.
... if there are any reds, we need to clear them up.
... anything else we can discuss in that 2 hours also.
Matthias: anybody leaving early on Friday?
Lagally: early afternoon.
Kawaguchi: I will leave on
Friday.
... 9pm flight.
McCool: wrap up around 3pm should be ok.
<mlagally> +1
Daniel: scripting topic can be Thursday. Zoltan and myself will leave Thursday afternoon.
McCool: Zoltan and Daniel Peintner will regret on Friday.
Zoltan: I can join by phone on Friday.
<McCool> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_6-7_June_2019,_Munich,_Germany#Agenda
McCool: there is a rendered version.
<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/761
Matthias: there is a list of work items #761.
Lagally: I added a couple of
comments.
... sorry for the delay.
McCool: Originally, we planned to have this done by yesterday.
Kaz: we have to submit this charter by next Wednesday.
McCool: I suggest to send this
out in the next couple of days.
... I suggest to record resolution.
Matthias: I need to go through
the PRs.
... including Lagally's.
McCool is going through Laggaly's PR #761...
McCool: EdgeX and OpenAPI, I suggested to add them.
Lagally: suggested to mention Digital Twin.
Matthias: Template relates to lifecycle.
Lagally: Thing templates are orthogonal to lifecycle management in my opinion.
Matthias: It is simply a collection of related work items.
Lagally: I do not suggest to put them on a single line.
Sebastian: Digital Twin idea is a broad concept.
Lagally: people want to have representative of devices, manage historical data, run models, etc.
McCool: overlaps with TD. IIC
discusses Admin Shell.
... simulation is a new concept for us.
... we need to clarify definition of Digital Twin, and
relationship to WoT.
... we need to say: clarify relationship to digital twin.
Matthias: that sounds ok.
Lagally: we can make reference to workshop from IG charter.
Matthias: There is also Data activity.
Dave: there is a blog for that.
McCool: Please suggest citation.
Lagally: It is not a blocker.
McCool: Issues are rising from workshop. we can say this way.
Matthias: It does not add anything to the charter.
Lagally: use cases and
requirements are also deliverables.
... process document, we should point to new one.
McCool: we should make a resolution to adopt those changes.
McCool is typing a proposed resolution...
<McCool> proposal: the modifications as discussed in https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/761 will be completed and the revised IG Charter proposal will be submitted to W3M
McCool: any comments?
RESOLUTION: the modifications as discussed in https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/761 will be completed and the revised IG Charter proposal will be submitted to W3M
McCool: I rendered testing
results.
... can defer detailed discussion.
... there are red items.
... manual assertions, in particular.
... smartthings and FUJITSU TDs.
... I manually fixed.
<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/757
McCool: Koster and Fujitsu, please check.
<McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/pull/751
McCool: I will create issues for
all remaning reds.
... Please resolve those PRs as soon as possible.
Kaz: comment on update for TD draft CR, I need to discuss with you about assertions.
McCool: Let's schedule a meeting between us.
McCool: We're pinging them.
... by June 12, we need to get TAG reviews.
... June 19 - PR trsnsition resolution. all edits have to be
done by June 18.
... Stay awake and make sure to finalize all the edits.
... We have to get things done.
Kaz: I contacted the TAG Team Contact, Yves Lafon.
... and asked for review comments by "early" June.
McCool: renaming for security and
privacy documents.
... rename for security and privacy consideration
document.
... this is a deliverable.
... Test cases description will be part of TD implementation
report.
... we should remove from deliverable list.
... Hold security best practices until new IG charter.
... Security Testing plan should be merged to security and
privacy guideline.
security best practices will be published in the next charter.
McCool: testing plan currently
refers to security best practices.
... we can remove that for now.
... any comments?
Matthias: This is quite chaotic. The purpose to clear it up.
McCool is typing in a proposed resolutions...
RESOLUTION: Rename Security and Privacy Considerations to Security and Privacy Guidelines and publish as a WG Note
RESOLUTION: Remove Test Cases from WG Deliverables; will however be documented as part of TD Implementation Report
RESOLUTION: Add Security Testing Plan to the Security and Privacy Guidelines and include in update.
RESOLUTION: Hold Security Best Practices until the new IG charter.
Lagally: Architecture Task Force, I suggest to cancel call this week.
<mlagally> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/PRESENTATIONS/wot-summary-and-roadmap-05-2019.pptx
Lagally: my colleague presented WoT in China in ISO/IEC SC41.
Matthias: I updated WG
page.
... I will remove "Test Cases" from the page.
... IG page. someone who is familiar with blog posting system,
we should have workshop posted here.
Dave: It is easy to post.
... we need an action.
Matthias: We need to copy text from WG page into IG page.
<McCool> copy workshop content from here: https://www.w3.org/WoT/WG/
McCool: Dave, can you take that action?
Dave: OK. I will coordinate with Kaz.
McCool: Do we need to update red text at the front of the IG page?
Matthias: there is also entry
page.
... next week, we should discuss to have this page
up-to-date.
Kaz: If we want to update group page, we need to clarify and write down our requirements.
McCool: First, content needs to be made up-to-date.
Sebastian: it is 2 years old. we just need to implement it.
Kaz: Who will provide concrete text?
McCool: we can discuss in F2F.
Dave: I suggest to make temporary
update this week.
... some simple stuff.
Kaz: If everyone is ok with that
tentative fix, we can work on that this week.
... let's discuss details during F2F.
McCool: fine minutes break.
... adjourned.