Outreach Campaign for Translations

Shawn: Also sent email with specifics and we are ready for everyone to share the news. If it is a re-tweet, it's already documented, no need to add to the list. But if you send news about translations to an accessibility meet-up or dev group list, add to a newsletter, share as a blog post or such, please do add to wiki.

Video-based resources

Shadi: Follow up from last week's call

<shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Video-Based_Resources

Shadi: scroll down to deliverables ideas. Here you will find the current proposal based on last week's discussion and the survey results. There has been interest in small, short clips to introduce various resources. Begin with simple clips, no need for scripting, actors, etc. So we will work with people who are confident, comfortable in front of camera. The idea is to open up existing resources - for example evaluation resources and to tie them together with a story. Maybe a three minute video that talks about how tools can't do everything but are important.

Shawn: When thinking about this - is it more of an introduction to evaluation rather than an overview of the evaluation process?

Shadi: Maybe but I think it is both. In all of these video clips want to build a bit of a story. Trying to make the resources have a fairly long lifetime. And I would expect most of these intros to be one to two minutes, no longer than 3.
... Planning and Managing for example would address PMs and team leaders and would want to target them as we build the story about how to integrate accessiiblity into your process.
... same with Organizational Policy and the Business Case - maybe less than a minute that raises the 4 main points.
... the common thread is to make stories that illustrate accessibility as the new black, a cool design option. We can think about several other resources as well, maybe as later deliverables.
... reminder that this is work to be done over three years so we may get to more of the resources but do need to prioritize.
... Second deliverable suggested by Chris last week is that for each SC, create a short, crisp (30/40 second) video explanation of what the requirement actually is trying to achieve (example, tablet secured to wheelcahir) to illustrate the essential purpose. May eventually be part of Understanding Docs.
... some may be able to be done without people, just voice over with illustrations. But for several would want to have people with disabilities illustrate the issue. There could be casting challenges and if we do it, we should think about it very closely aligned to third deliverable which is How People With Disabilities Use the Web.
... can be thinking about both together and they could be comprehensive and complementary.
... Finally is the updated version of the Before and After Demo and create a video training guide.
... These are the 4 deliverables that are suggested, would like to invite discussion. Starting with Deliverable 1, anyone like to comment?

Vicki: I like very much how the deliverables have been revised and the idea of linking them is a good one. I like the approach of addressing specific problems in short, focused clips.
... these are 4 deliverables that will all be done or are you asking for priorities?

<shawn> [ Shawn think Vicki 's comment sounds a bit like overview of ARRM (which won't be done for a while)]

Shadi: This is the plan, and in the next few months if something changes we can adapt.

Howard: I think these will be really useful. I don't have suggestions for any different topics. One confusion - you have HPWDUW in both Deliverable 1 and 4 - what is the difference?

Shadi: The one in D1 would be high level very short. In D3 it wouold be in depth for the impact on a person's daily life.

Robert: This is all planned to be very professionally produced like the Perspectives videos,correct?
... actors with disabilities who will play these roles? I like that. You mentioned that some, esp D1 may be short clips that do not need professional actors. Will we do screen casts or what for those short ones?
... I see benefits in video showcasing of some resources right away without the weight of professional production.

Shadi: Thanks, excellent question. There are aspects of professional video beyond the casting and production. So we will work with a video producer for all of these. The scripting, storyboarding, etc require that.
... in terms of casting, we will use real people with disabilities and mix with actors to tell stories and play the part of the accessibility experts in the style of our choice.

Robert: Yes that makes sense, I am just thinking of how we as EOWG could help. Maybe with quick,one-off screencasts that could be integrated into the final production.

<shawn> [ Shawn notes to Robert that there was an idea to do screen casts for Easy Checks (which might change with new analysis)]

Shadi: Yes that is how we did things in the Perspectives video - gave the production company a clear description or example of the goals and balance of what to say, good visuals, what to show.

<shadi> for robert: https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Showcase_Examples_with_Videos

Laura: I agree with Shadi that D1 is a good idea, could be done and be turned around more quickly.Would provide experience to inform D2-D4. I think it is a good idea.

Shadi: Any ideas about the 5 suggested clips that would be done under D1?

<Vicki> +1

<Howard> +1

<Lewis> +1

<shawn> +1

<Laura> +1

<rjolly> +1

Shawn: In the EO plan call, we had suggested to put this on survey. Want to give people one more chance to comment?
... maybe it is just a list of what was considered and what was selected?

Shadi: OK will do. In the meantime looks like a tentative plan for D1. Now opening up to the others, remembering that these are the current plans, subject to change.

Shawn: The question of actors vs non-actors, can we do the ones that do not require actors first?
... two batches would allow more content out sooner.

Shadi: Yes this will all need much more thought, prep and so it is a good suggestion and will consider 2 or maybe even 3 phases. For example, what if we have to integrate WCAG 2.2 in the process?

Howard: Wonder if we might want a more detailed video on using the tools for doing evaluation in greater depth?

Shadi: So we have the intro to eval in D1 meant to be done by September. These are high level - about evaluation, WCAG-EM, report tools.
... evaluation will appear again in the D4 review of the BAD. Were you thinking of more detail than that?

Howard: If you had someone sit and go through and perform an evaluation, something that really showed what would be involved in the process of saying that a site is accessible.

Shadi: I will make a note to explore conformance itself.

Howard: Knowing how to do sampling, some of the testing activities.

Shadi: I had planned on a high level look but you are suggesting maybe a 30 minute step by step, sampling approaches, methods. So you are asking for an in-depth review, which one would be dropped.

Howard: No you just need to add another one.

Shadi: 3 years is a long time, let's see what develops.
... Even if we don't get to all ideas, it is good to have them on the record. Ideas for the future, things I would really like to have, ideas to replace current planned deliverables with others more compelling.

Shawn: Floor is open, put your ideas forward, this is the time.
... will be on the weekly survey.

Available for EO input

Shawn: Do people have comments on any/all of these resources listed on the agenda?

<Laura> no comment

<krisannekinney> no comments

<dboudreauq> no comment either

<Lewis> no comments

<rjolly> no comments

<Howard> no comments

<shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/cognitive/

Shawn: You can comment later on, and good job Robert.

Cognitive

Vicki: On cognitive accessibility page, the first sentence is a bit negative.I would either move it before the heading or modify it to read more postively.

Shawn: Background is that we want to be more positive and as well it important for the message to get out according to the cognitive advocates.
... can you submit a more positive version?

Any comments on any of this?

<Vicki> Suggestion for cognitive page: Section "Additional Support", combine the first 2 sentences as follows "Although some cognitive accessibility user needs are not addressed in existing W3C standars, W3C ...etc."

Shawn: Feel free to write up any comments as you review these resources.

Face to face meetings

<shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/EOWG_F2F

Shawn: Confirmed for Austin May 13th and 14th, get your tickets, we're going to Texas.
... Next one is in September in Japan related to TPAC

<shawn> japan https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35532/EO-2019-F2F-Input/results#xcoming

Shawn: the Austin meeting page is open, feel free to list ideas for topics
... One of the advantages of TPAC is the chanc to meet with other groups. With the translations promotions, good to note the Japanese TR translations are very active, they have produced by far the most translated documents.

Wrap up

<shawn> Curricula survey - First Review of "People And Access Technology" - complete by Thursday 4 April

<shawn> Approval survey for Accessibility Principles 2.1 updates - complete by Tuesday 9 April

Shawn: Remember there are a few surveys open - approval to publish, curriculum survey, etc.

Shadi: Thanks to everyone for completing the curricula survey.Feel free to critique more, don't be afraid to be critical. Think about all the different situations, can university professors work with this? professional consultants? trainers? Please help make them better.

<krisannekinney> change trainer to instructor. :)

<shadi> :)

Laura: The Accessibility Principles links to GitHub not to the survey.

Shawn: It will link from there when we update WFTW
... anything else?

Howard: Regarding Shadi's question there was a big survey done by U of Washington about who is teaching access in their course, what are challenges, etc. Look at these results perhaps, get feedback from them about how to fill teh gap they have identified.

Shadi: Is it published, can you share it?
... I am in discussion with IAAP, UNESCO, etc to get feedback. Several really bright minds created a curriculm for universal design. So I am seeking broad input.
... thanks to everyone who commented so far.

<shawn> +1 for connecting with the audience at Accessing Higher Ground

KrisAnne: Would bringing this to AHG be a good place to get more feedback? Faculty surveys are not always productive, AHG may be a place to get what you need.

<Howard> link to article on faculty survey on who teaches accessibility: https://faculty.washington.edu/ajko/papers/Shinohara2018AccessComputingSurvey.pdf

Howard: Yes that is an activity that would be aligned with the conference, would be of interest and value.

<Howard> Speaker proposal form (for Shadi): https://accessinghigherground.org/speaker-submissions/

Shawn: Could be a place to gather input in small groups.

Howard: My grant was extended to the end of the year and we have a track this year to explore - could be a nice fit.

Shawn: Great - anything else for today? Thanks for all your input, ideas, perspectives to make EO resources better. Have a great weekend!