*apologies for latness - PC updates
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<roba> +1
propose: Approve last meeting's minutes
<LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.03.27
<LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2019/03/13-dxwgcneg-minutes
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<roba> +1
<LarsG> s/https:\/\/www.w3.org\/2017\/dxwg\/wiki\/Meetings:CNEG-Telecon2019.03.27//
Resolved: Approve last meeting's minutes
<LarsG> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/products/4
<LarsG> action-193?
<trackbot> action-193 -- Rob Atkinson to Move jmeter test suite to within w3c systems -- due 2018-09-05 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/193
topi: discussion about open action items
<LarsG> action-291?
<trackbot> action-291 -- Nicholas Car to Review initial "no overlap" determination and propose explanatory note -- due 2019-02-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/291
<LarsG> ncar: can probably be closed due to the development
<LarsG> ... of the various documents
<LarsG> ... there doesn't seem to be an overlap any more
<LarsG> ... can be closed
<LarsG> close action-291
<trackbot> Closed action-291.
<LarsG> action-312?
<trackbot> action-312 -- Rob Atkinson to Create an issue for sequence diagram -- due 2019-03-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/312
<LarsG> roba: fixed as #852, can be closed
<LarsG> close action-312
<trackbot> Closed action-312.
<LarsG> action-313?
<trackbot> action-313 -- Lars G. Svensson to Ping nick about action-291 -- due 2019-03-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/313
<LarsG> LarsG: can be closed since acted on and 291 is closed
<LarsG> close action-313
<trackbot> Closed action-313.
<LarsG> action-315?
<trackbot> action-315 -- Lars G. Svensson to Add a proposal for url length into #592 -- due 2019-03-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/315
<LarsG> LarsG: acted https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2019Mar/0409.html
<LarsG> close action-315
<trackbot> Closed action-315.
<LarsG> action-316?
<trackbot> action-316 -- Lars G. Svensson to Review the implications of profile transitivity wrt to ietf document -- due 2019-03-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/316
roba: you could say this is a client problem
LarsG: the IETF document will likely not say anything about this
LarsG: the IETF doc may refer to the W3C doc for details about this
roba: most common UC, server supports a more specific profile than the client wants
roba: want to allow clients to ask for most general, server to give most specific
roba: want to make sure IETF doc doesn't prevent this
LarsG: perhaps IETF doc will suggest servers might want to support transitivity (of profiles) but that the IETF doc won't describe how
roba: we have to say what a valid response is - the requested URI or another (more specific?)
LarsG: client won't know that it's a narrower profile
roba: unless the rule is you either get what you asked for or a narrower
LarsG: from mediatype world, you ask for text/xml but you get back some other ...+xml, the client might not know that this is XML but this is legal
roba: this is what we want
roba: tricky if client asked for a weighted set of profiles
LarsG: this all makes it hard to make clients
roba: might not make the client harder to make
LarsG: client might not know how to relate profile URLs
LarsG: mediatypes not opaque - has +xml for XML subtypes
<LarsG> ncar: there is knowledge in the structure (+xml)
<LarsG> ... not sensible to ask for "nothing but this profile"
<LarsG> roba: the server has a specific version
<LarsG> ncar: If I get back a narrower profile everything is OK
<LarsG> roba: problem is when you ask for two profiles
<LarsG> ncar: is it possible to have the case when you get a resource according
<LarsG> ... to two profiles?
<LarsG> ncar: thought we decided to return the profile URI the client
<LarsG> ... asked for even if it returns a narrower profile
<LarsG> roba: then the client doesn't know what profile it really got
<LarsG> [...] discussion on how to split what the client asked for and which profile it actually is (a broader one)
<LarsG> ncar: will make a branch and a PR with proposal text
<LarsG> action-317?
<trackbot> action-317 -- Rob Atkinson to Remove the "list tokens" part from the ed since that's not necessary any more -- due 2019-03-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/317
<LarsG> roba: PR has been approved and merged
<LarsG> close action-317
<trackbot> Closed action-317.
<LarsG> action-318?
<trackbot> action-318 -- Lars G. Svensson to Remove closed issues from the connec ed document -- due 2019-03-20 -- OPEN
<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/318
LarsG: I went to remove closed isseus but didn't find any
<LarsG> close action-318
<trackbot> Closed action-318.
LarsG: was I meant to remove Requirements?
roba: no, looks like job done
<LarsG> ncar: want to put forward to publish ED as PWD in next plenary
ncar: are we ready for 2PWD
<LarsG> +1
<roba> +1
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Resolved: want to put forward to publish ED as PWD in next plenary
Anette's issue regarding the QSA approach is Issue 544 in Sec 7.2 in the doc
roba: our main respondent, Kam Hay Fung, has heighed in about it
ncar: I will prepare the doc for 2PWD and prepare a PR for returning narrower profiles
LarsG: we used to meet at other times, should we change?
LarsG: we haven't had any USA participation for 4 months, can we go back to previous time?
roba: I can make the previous timeslot
ncar: I can make the previous, prefer this timeslot
LarsG: I will prepare a poll for a new time
Action: LarsG to propose new meeting times
<trackbot> Created ACTION-320 - Propose new meeting times [on Lars G. Svensson - due 2019-04-03].
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