<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Meetings:DCAT-Telecon2019.02.06
alejandra: Any other topic to discuss?
… And what about thinking about a new PWD?
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2019/01/30-dxwgdcat-minutes
<alejandra> +1
+1
<PWinstanley> +1
SimonCox: +1
Resolved: Approve minutes from last meeting
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
PWinstanley: I made some progress on the very old ones
<PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/726
<alejandra> closing #173, #174, #197
close action-173
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close action-197
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<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/134
<alejandra> AndreaPerego: I will check the current draft and see what text could be integrated
<alejandra> it could go on Introduction: https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/#introduction
<alejandra> or in Motivation for change: https://w3c.github.io/dxwg/dcat/#motivation
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/282
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/270 can be closed
<alejandra> close action-270
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<alejandra> close action-278
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<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/278
<alejandra> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/
alejandra: The most recent ones have been addressed, right?
… We still have to reply to Ine (and Luca).
<alejandra> AndreaPerego: About Ine's reply, I'll check if we are addressing the issue
Action: AndreaPerego to reply to Ine's message on comments list
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<alejandra> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2019Jan/0005.html
AndreaPerego: This was fixed in the UCR via a PR, and Jaro replied to the mail.
alejandra: Stephen raised some issues in GH, but we haven't replied on the mailing list.
… Should we do that, as per possible W3C requirements?
PWinstanley: I would try to be pragmatic here. What is important is getting feedback.
Action: alejandra to check comments list for missing replies
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<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/735
alejandra: Please review outstanding PRs - some following up from yesterday's sprint
<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/730
alejandra: There's also one related to the "bag of files" issue. Should we wait for Makx's review?
PWinstanley: Let's wait for Makx.
SimonCox: I tried to fold his comments in the current examples, so better wait for him. It has no impact on the rest we are doing.
alejandra: So, what is left is next sprint planning. And some open issues ^^
… Should we look at them?
SimonCox: +1 from me.
alejandra: About https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/224
… So, should this be for the UCR to decide if it should go in?
<riccardoAlbertoni_> yes I agree
PWinstanley: +1
<alejandra> AndreaPerego: this can be linked to another action for me
<alejandra> ... about including examples about licensing and rights
<alejandra> ... and how to use the different properties
<alejandra> ... such as odrl:hasPolicy etc
<alejandra> ... I'll get in touch with Nick
Action: AndreaPerego to add examples related to licensing and rights (see https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/224)
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<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/81
<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/pull/651
<alejandra> final 'due for closing': https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/80
About licences and rights there's already a issue in GH: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/676
SimonCox: About #80, this is in a non-normative part, and I'm unsure how long I should go.
… I tried to illustrate how this alignment with qualified forms can work.
… Maybe is just for corner cases.
… But this issue was not addressed systematically.
… If anyone has an interest in it, please step in. It might end up in a normative section.
alejandra: Indeed it may be a niche thing - and I see the requirement is yet to be approved.
… Do we keep the issue for the moment, or we are going to close it as we won't be able to address it?
SimonCox: My understanding is a low concern. We can close it. Maybe with a note saying we were not going on with it.
alejandra: Can you make a proposal then?
SimonCox: Yes.
alejandra: So I'll tag the issue so that we can come back to it if we have time.
<alejandra> proposed: label issue 80 as wontfix and close it adding a comment that we are not going to deal with this issue as too specific/niche
<SimonCox> +1
<alejandra> +1
+1
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1
<PWinstanley> +1
Resolved: label issue 80 as wontfix and close it adding a comment that we are not going to deal with this issue as too specific/niche
<alejandra> Milestone: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/milestone/14
alejandra: Should we now look in other issues?
… Quite a few of them are editorial, and Dave is assigned to them.
<Zakim> SimonCox, you wanted to ask about editor/contributor list
SimonCox: About contributors. I think a couple of people on the call made quite a few contributions, so it might be worth giving them full credit.
<PWinstanley> +1
<alejandra> +1
SimonCox: About the issue concerning Annette proposal, it is probably still incomplete and relates to a specific case of API automation.
… The scope is a bit different from the general one.
<SimonCox> re list of DCAT editors ... to add riccardoAlbertoni_ and AndreaPerego to list of editors in recognition of their substantial contributions to the document
PWinstanley: I think we should still give it a chance to make the point.
… I also think the machine-to-machine perspective is worth being considered.
SimonCox: One of the issues is that I don't completely catch Annette's proposal.
… So I'm concerned on the impact that it may have on the spec.
PWinstanley: I don't disagree, but I think that trying somehow to think of people writing tools when talking about services.
<SimonCox> I'm looking at Annette's proposal here https://agreiner.github.io/dxwg/dcat/#dcat-scope
PWinstanley: We need to put a bridge.
alejandra: I do see the value. What is unclear is why we need, e.g, a class instead of a property for this.
<alejandra> AndreaPerego: I was also trying to catch the point made by Annette - one of the things we should consider whether it is or not in scope of DCAT
<alejandra> ... one of the examples was about the description of the interface
<alejandra> ... she was talking about human targetted description of it
<alejandra> ... maybe this information should not be in DCAT but in the API description linked from DCAT such as Swagger, OpenAPI, etc
<alejandra> ... this is what people are using for doing this job
<alejandra> ... description of search capabilities
<PWinstanley> +1 to AndreaPerego , but we need to be explicit about this
<alejandra> ... we are not saying how to do these things within DCAT, we point to other language specifications that are designed to do the job
<alejandra> ... from a developer perspective, I'd be happy to reuse what is out there rather than having to adapt my code
<PWinstanley> we need to explicitly delegate
<alejandra> ... I may not be catching completely the point
<alejandra> ... but we could consider if the requirements are or not in scope
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1 to AndreaPerego consideration about the scope
<PWinstanley> ? does Hydra have something to offer too?
alejandra: Maybe it would be good to have an example to clarify the points.
SimonCox: Yes, I think we should ask Annette to provide examples to move the discussion forward.
<SimonCox> In order to understand the scope of Annette's proposal, need to see a worked example, then we can tell if AndreaPerego response is suffucient
<alejandra> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/675
<alejandra> AndreaPerego: wanted to reply about PWinstanley comment about Hydra
<alejandra> ... there is one example by Luca Trani
<alejandra> ... and it is yet another way of doing things
<alejandra> ... we don't need to enumerate the specs
<alejandra> ... we say 'use what is out there to do the job'
<riccardoAlbertoni_> yess
alejandra: Thanks. We can then close the meeting.
<PWinstanley> bye
<riccardoAlbertoni_> Thanks a lot, bye
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