Ah
should i fwd the invite?
details are here https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Oct/0401.html
details are here https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Oct/0401.html...
but I'm alone
<riccardoAlbertoni> alejandra the link is changed check the mail https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-wg/2018Oct/0401.html...
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2018/10/31-dxwgdcat-minutes
<alejandra> +1
<riccardoAlbertoni> 0 ( i was not there)
<PWinstanley> 0
+1
Resolved: Minutes approved
<alejandra> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/open
alejandra: Clemen's comment - do we let the discussion continue for now
<alejandra> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/
alejandra: or formulate a response
<alejandra> DaveBrowning reply to Clemens: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Nov/0000.html
PWinstanley: Horses for courses - need to keep them in the dialog
<alejandra> Clemens' reply: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Nov/0001.html
PWinstanley: as long as we have identifier to tie back to comment
<alejandra> Luca Trani: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Oct/0003.html
alejandra: we should acknowledge to the other comment (Luca)
+1
<riccardoAlbertoni> +1
<AndreaPerego> +1
alejandra: let the conversation around Clemens to continue
… On Luca's - generally positive feed back
<alejandra> "I assume that more might be added to extend the scope of a Catalogue when needed. Am I correct? Do you support composition of resources? Would that be covered by dct:relation?"
alejandra: there are more questions as well
<AndreaPerego> Composition of resources requires further explanation from Luca.
<DaveBrowning_> DaveBrowning: test
<alejandra_> https://www.w3.org/2018/11/07-dxwgdcat-minutes.html
<AndreaPerego_> zakim AndreaPerego_ is AndreaPerego
<alejandra_> if Luca was referring to dataset composition, we might will be covering it already
<alejandra_> but we need clarification on what resources compositions he was referring to
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<alejandra_> we should probably add an example of a service providing multiple datasets (can't remember if we have one already)
<riccardoAlbertoni_> adding to my list of example
<riccardoAlbertoni_> even better
AndreaPerego: About roles - we could ask him what roles are more often used?
… but what other ones would be useful - and should they be defined in the DCAT case
… so getting them to put forward a use case would be great
… Also perhaps need to be more explicit around relationship with Hydra
alejandra: He does say that Hydra goes beyond swagger etc
… so we need to raise some more issues, and start a dialog
<riccardoAlbertoni_> +1 to AndreaPerego about tracking the comments also outside the github
AndreaPerego: I'll do it, but can we use issues to track to conclusion
Action: AndreaPerego to reply to Luca's mail at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dxwg-comments/2018Oct/0003.html
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PWinstanley: What's the difference between swagger etc on one side and Hydra on the other?
AndreaPerego: They do more or less the same. All are machine actionable. OpenAPI has more descriptive aspects
PWinstanley: So are these more documents or a response to a RESTful call?
<alejandra> I created the action manually: https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/track/actions/258
AndreaPerego: Complex area.... lots of overlap.
PWinstanley: This a dynamic area and new techologies arise quite quickly
<AndreaPerego> Another example is the SPARQL Service Description: https://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-service-description/
<alejandra> DaveBrowning: to what extend does it influence what we do with DCAT?
<alejandra> ... we need to preserve modularity
<alejandra> ... we need to be looking for the sweet spot, we need to be clear that we cannot be that definite
<alejandra> ... we shouldn't get too much into the detail, and be quite modular
PWinstanley: Yes, there are multiple things referenced and we need to make the right 'boundary'
<Zakim> AndreaPerego, you wanted to suggest we ask Luca how they addressed the same issue
alejandra: Yes - that's a good idea
<alejandra> their solution is visible in the UML diagram here: https://github.com/epos-eu/EPOS-DCAT-AP
AndreaPerego: There was a discussion on github (can't find it at the moment)
… will look for it - it used RDF
<PWinstanley> https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/411 ref to THREDDS etc
<AndreaPerego> The GH discussion I mentioned: https://github.com/w3c/dxwg/issues/56#issuecomment-375893228
<AndreaPerego> It was Stephane Fellah who posted it,
<alejandra> Dave's spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aQqV5Dl3blsjk-Htx5bWZbXghvVZhl1mKOix4aAfL0g/edit#gid=0
<Zakim> riccardoAlbertoni_, you wanted to try summarize a proposal for Identifies
riccardoAlbertoni_: Is there activity for identifiers
… have some ideas on how to progress, draft example?
<alejandra> I think the discussion was around choosing between adms:identifier and sdo:identifier
<AndreaPerego> About dereferenceable IDs, I just discovered (thanks to Raphael Troncy and Antoine) that ISSN now supports URIs - e.g., http://issn.org/resource/ISSN/2242-8496
<alejandra> yes, I saw that, great
Action: riccardoAlbertoni_ to summarise the issues about identifiers and propose a solution
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DaveBrowning: That would be a great idea- it would help clarify some of the versioning identifiers
<riccardoAlbertoni_> thanks bye
<alejandra> thanks all, bye!
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