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DXWG Plenary

<kcoyle> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2018/‌08/‌14-dxwg-minutes

<kcoyle> proposed: accept minutes of august 14

+1

<ncar> +1

<azaroth> +1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> 0 (absent)

<alejandra> +1

Resolved: accept minutes of August 14

<kcoyle> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌open

https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌pendingreview

closing #148 #162

<alejandra> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌track/‌actions/‌177

from DCAT WG: RESOLVED: DCAT determines that the description of profiles is relevant to meeting some requirements for DCAT but since is broader conceptually than the DCAT scope should be addressed in the profile guidance deliverables

<kcoyle> in minutes https://‌www.w3.org/‌2018/‌08/‌16-dxwgdcat-minutes.html

and RESOLVED: treat profiles at the same level of detail and using the same mechanism as services in the DCAT specification

kcoyle: what is the level of detail...

<SimonCox> kcoyle: suggest you look at https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌dcat/‌UML/‌DCAT-summary.png

<kcoyle> roba: decision not to choose a particular decision and broadening dcat to services means we should have a high level solution;

<kcoyle> ... dcat will have a high level concept of service, but nothing more

<annette_g> +1 to that

closing #177

SimonCo: Report from DCAT WG
… working towards 2nd PWD
… now a chapter on data quality and descriptions of provenance
… Dave Browning now doing editorial cleaning
… FPWD was largely 2014 with open issues, 2PWD will address approx half of these

kcoyle: @dsr needs to be alerted about any dates

<alejandra> Dave Browning will contact Dave Ragget

<kcoyle> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌323

Decision required as role of profileDesc in profile guidance

kcoyle: deadline to provide initial documentation, for online discussion for decision by Sept 11
… leading to FPWD by TPAC

* oops

kcoyle: Decision required as role of profileDesc in profile guidance ...deadline to provide initial documentation, for online discussion for decision by Sept 11
… leading to FPWD by TPAC
… like the Services decision for DCAT

ncar: issues in github tagged according to guidance vs conneg
… discussion in CWG about scope - that document will have update to clarify scope too

ncar: not all of us can make F2F
… report from conneg group - business as usual, working on FPWD scope, meeting again tomorrow

<kcoyle> roba: about the options - 2 ways of looking at decision: 1) look at from profile description 2) how do we handle requirements in profile guidance?

<kcoyle> ... my preference is #2

<kcoyle> ... how to meeting requirements where no alternative is identified

<kcoyle> annette_g: is this about thinking about loooking at requirements before solutions?

<kcoyle> roba: the decision is not about profile description within profile guidance document; should be decision about how profile guidance addresses requirements

Action: roba open issue for discussion of how profile guidance addresses requirements

<trackbot> Created ACTION-188 - Open issue for discussion of how profile guidance addresses requirements [on Rob Atkinson - due 2018-09-04].

<alejandra> https://‌w3c.github.io/‌dxwg/‌profiles/

<alejandra> I think that's the document

ncar: first straw man has examples of requirements

kcoyle: what is procedure
… for editing document

<alejandra> This is the link to the Github etiquette

<alejandra> https://‌www.w3.org/‌2017/‌dxwg/‌wiki/‌GitHub_etiquette

SimonCox: formal procedures only apply to normative artefacts, otherwise normal courtesies

roba: as editor this was a first shell, will be discussed and updated via PR within the DCAT guidance WG from now on

<kcoyle> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌238

ncar: we have skipped agenda items
… e.g. can requirements be moved from doc to github
… these have now been moved to github and we should now remove from the agenda

<alejandra> +1 to removing the prefix

ncar: suggests to remove verbatim wording including "Requirement:" prefix

+1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1 to remove prefix

<ncar> yes

<kcoyle> roba: use case in issue 238: is about publication of profiles of DCAT and of DCAT-AP

<kcoyle> ... mainly a prior practice, and includes some issues found in other use cases, but this is more DCAT-specific

<kcoyle> annette_g: we discussed the use of the word 'inheritance' before, but it's here

<kcoyle> roba: it's in a note, so not really important

<PWinstanley_> +1 to ncar

<kcoyle> ncar: inheritance in programming languages is relevant here

<SimonCox> instead of 'inheritance' say 'sub-class' ...

<kcoyle> annette_g: programming languages is not relevant here; because that isn't what we're trying to do, and we haven't agreed yet

<kcoyle> ... this is vocabs not programming languages

<PWinstanley_> but in natural language we bridge lexical gaps with loans from other natural languages

<kcoyle> SimonCox: clearly we are not talking about programming languages; we are talking about subclassing

<kcoyle> ... there is an implication that subclasses conform to their classes

<PWinstanley_> english is full of romantic and germanic roots, and also hindi (sanskrit) loans

<kcoyle> straw poll: remove this sentence regarding Java

<azaroth> +1

<annette_g> +1

+0

<ncar> -1

<riccardoAlbertoni> +1

<PWinstanley_> +0

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

<SimonCox> +1

<ncar> no, don't bother

Action: roba remove sentence about Java

<trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Remove sentence about java [on Rob Atkinson - due 2018-09-04].

<ncar> it was an informal poll

* action completed

<kcoyle> proposed: accept use case in issue 238

<SimonCox> +1 azaroth

* text is in top - kept up to date (i have just updated it)

+1

<kcoyle> +1

<annette_g> +1

<azaroth> +1

<ncar> +1

<PWinstanley_> +1

<alejandra> +1

<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1

Resolved: accept use case described in issue 238, with removal of sentence about Java

<kcoyle> https://‌github.com/‌w3c/‌dxwg/‌issues/‌239

ncar: discussed in conneg group - and the implications are being discussed in solution
… document starting to include notes on guidance beyond the IETF

kcoyle: Has conneg group resolved to accept this yet

ncar: will make sure its on agenda to do so and report back to the plenary

<alejandra> thanks all, and bye!

<riccardoAlbertoni> thanks, bye !

<annette_g> bye all!

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