<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> scribe: Janina

<scribe> scribe: janina

updates wcag

ac: WCAG moving forward toward PR--in management review
... WG is reviewing Understanding docs

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC

ls: Can you confirm that's the current link?

<alastairc> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents

ac: Please do comment however easiest

<kirkwood> could you give the directions in IRC?

<kirkwood> great thanks I will check

ac: Notes directions at top of wiki page referenced above

<alastairc> Example where bruce added a doc as his comment: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/795

ls: 2 questions ...

ls 1. Deadline?

ac: First round initial review by Tuesday
... Hoping to have progressing review

<kirkwood> tead each page of document and comment on usefulness, correct?

ls: Is this an opportunity to give advice not covered by SC? i.e. best practices?

ac: Needs to be closely related
... should be closely related and fairly concise

ls: suggesting apportioning reviews ...

<alastairc> Steps, pick a doc from this page: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing

<trackbot> Created ACTION-273 - Review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].

<alastairc> Step 2: click the link in the description, e.g. the second link in this page? https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/779

<kirkwood> I can review timeout

ls: timeout? anyone?

<alastairc> Step 3: add comments on the github issue.

<kirkwood> by tuesday yes

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: john to review Understanding Timeouts

<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwoo to review Understanding Timeouts

<trackbot> Created ACTION-274 - Review understanding timeouts [on John Kirkwood - due 2018-04-26].

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: mark to review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing

<trackbot> Created ACTION-275 - Review undering 1.3.5 and 1.3.4 understing [on Mark Wilcock - due 2018-04-26].

ls: Think we should also review other sections just in case we have anything to add ...
... Looking at spacing ...

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: EA to review undering https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/783

<trackbot> Created ACTION-276 - Review undering https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/783 [on E.A. Draffan - due 2018-04-26].

ls: Is that reasonable?

ac: sure
... comments first, then suggested text or edited text suggestions

jan: do we need to include references?

ls: no

ac: Thought references welcome

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ugestion we all read https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents and add coments on coga best practice

ls: believe now a good time for comments
... Also, can you provide update on our intro

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/

<alastairc> editors draft: https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/

js: Asks what doc being discussed?

ls & ac: the spec itself -- there was significant debate re the intro

<alastairc> https://w3c.github.io/wcag21/guidelines/#background-on-wcag-2

ac: there are additions as a result

ls: no direct link

<alastairc> Work will carry on in this area in future versions of WCAG. We encourage authors to refer to our supplemental guidance on improving inclusion for people with disabilities, including learning and cognitive disabilities, people with low-vision, and more.

Thanks!

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> sugestion we all read https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Wcag21-understanding-documents and add coments on coga best practice

ls: summarizes that now a good time, best to comment by Tuesday as possible

jan: asks about symbolx support

ls: notes it's come back to life

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa to find uot updates on symbols

<trackbot> Created ACTION-277 - Find uot updates on symbols [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].

jan: noting that symbols need unique ids
... working on it
... will also look at concept net

ls: notes contacts on this issue via Personalization TF

jan: a copy?

ls: in p13n spec
... anything else re wcag?

publication

ls: any volunteers for another table edit?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html

ls: OK, moving on for now ...

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html

janina: I goofed and have confused voices. Above refs to "Jan" should be "ea"

ls: anyone reviewed edits to summaries? Any comments?

<kirkwood> issue paper summaries page, I’m looking at it

ls: Requesting John and EA, please review!

<kirkwood> yes I see it how would I comment?

ea: yes on symbols
... Is it in Word doc?

ls: link above

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0016.html

ls: use this one!

ea: got it!

ls: also graded help

<kirkwood> yes

ls: to Lisa's offer to post summaries as Google Docs

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: lisa make issue paer summaires a google docs

<trackbot> Created ACTION-278 - Make issue paer summaires a google docs [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].

ls: Any other volunteers?

<alastairc> NB: There is an HTML version of the "Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities" doc: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/usable.html

<shari> yes

ls: hopefully by saturday

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: EA to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on E.A. Draffan - due 2018-04-26].

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwood to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> Error finding 'jkirkwood'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: john to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> 'john' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: jkirkwoo to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on John Kirkwood - due 2018-04-26].

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Lisa to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2018-04-26].

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Shari to review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries

<trackbot> Created ACTION-282 - Review the goggle doc on issuepaer summaries [on Shari Butler - due 2018-04-26].

ls: Please advise list when reviewed
... can then move to a coga cfc

<alastairc> NB: There is an HTML version of the "Making content usable for people with cognitive and learning disabilities" doc: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/usable.html

<alastairc> with - https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/transfer-usable-to-html/content-usable/table.html

ac: expect can do by this time next week

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alister to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<trackbot> Error finding 'alister'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alastairc to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<trackbot> Error finding 'alastairc'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: alast to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<trackbot> Error finding 'alast'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: AlastairC to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<trackbot> Error finding 'AlastairC'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: Alastair Campbell to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018Apr/0010.html

<trackbot> Created ACTION-283 - Campbell to adress comments and notes in the google docs. including https://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018apr/0012.html and https://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2018apr/0010.html [on Alastair Campbell - due 2018-04-26].

ls: that takes us back to the table; john R did a great job on his pass
... Anyone able to do a review? Noting it's not simple

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html

ls: even 1 or two of them would help

<kirkwood> I have reviewed and thought quite good for now

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> ACTION: shari to review https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html

<trackbot> Created ACTION-284 - Review https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html [on Shari Butler - due 2018-04-26].

sb: Will do this afternoon with Jan. It's on my calendar

ls: looking forward recalling design reqs ...
... Is there desire for Monday meeting on that?

[expressions of unavailability]

ls: believe we've plenty assigned for now!
... Suggest to issue CfC on publication Monday due end of week
... following that we can return to design
... any other business?

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> jhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

<LisaSeemanKestenbaum> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WcfVALVq8PS9CLXUuAfV9Op0wXvI2yJYedj5jO23GTk/edit#

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