<scribe> scribe: allanj
1.4.11 definition of state. Seems fine.
ac: def is back. went away for a bit.
need to address the contrast of states in the understanding for 1.4.11
ac: working on many things.
... Understanding doc for Non-text content is huge.
... need some help with controls portion of Non-text. need
examples.
... also need reviews.
... working on test process. based on presentation.
... may need create a survey with pictures for interrator
reliability.
<alastairc> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1bvukTWBNTuC0ABk40fH8i194B0Gmb-qoUZukE-W6_TU/edit?usp=sharing
ac: set up as multiple choice.
what is the graphic that needs to be tested.
... seek agreement on what should be tested, etc.
... somewhat difficult to find sites and examples.
... reflow + zoom. need some work
close item 1
Reflow & zoom - 3 items (467, 415, 414)
Non-Text Contrast - 6 items (628, 549, 522, 437, 436, 181)
Adapting Text - 4 items (576, 551, 469, 438)
<alastairc> I think #694 is done, there's a pull request linked to it.
Non-text contrast (Graphics Contrast):
https://www.w3.org/2017/11/14-ag-minutes.html#item05
https://www.w3.org/2017/10/05-lvtf-minutes.html#item02
jim will create a synopsis of items in issues and minutes
do we need more pictures for reflow & zoom
ac: need a new video for vertical test to show only horizontal scrolling
<alastairc> I think this might work: https://www.chenhuijing.com/zh-type/
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Proposed_WCAG_2.1_SC_Techniques#Reflow_.281.4.10.29 (4 proposed in Understanding and 3 proposed failures)
<shawn> Shadi is coordinating Understanding work through EOWG :-)
ac: might be good to send over to EOWG. Eric Eggert for flexbox or grids
jim check with Eric
jim half way done with language/script
Non-Text Contrast - 6 items (628, 549, 522, 437, 436, 181)
Adapting text:
https://www.w3.org/2017/11/13-ag-minutes.html#item01
https://www.w3.org/2017/07/18-ag-minutes.html#item02
<alastairc> Better vertical text demo: https://www.chenhuijing.com/demos/grids-vertical/ one of the images expands to create vertical scrolling, but the text fits ok.
laura: after jim
internationalization piece added need LVTF review. Most
implementation follow up deal with blocks of text - david
mcdonald was going to head that up. but no examples yet
... had editors note about text outside block of text. but note
gone now.
<laura> Note was: "Editors Note: The Working Group seeks examples in the wild of text content outside of blocks of text where it would be impossible to meet this SC. The SC's scope may be narrowed based upon implementation testing."
jim create wiki to show when we met the implementation stuff
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Accepted_WCAG_2.1_SC
<alastairc> Better method across sites: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/710#issuecomment-357478610
jim include a few pictures of language/scripts in internationalization paragraph
ac: use stylish with settings above.
trackbot, end meeting
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