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XForms Users Community Group Teleconference

25 Oct 2017

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Alain, Erik, Steven
Regrets
Philip
Chair
Steven
Scribe
Steven

Contents


Previous Minutes:

https://www.w3.org/2017/10/18-forms-minutes.html

DST Changes

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Oct/0016

Steven: Reminder, next week the call will be one hour earlier in Europe

Creating instance data from external resources

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Oct/0013

Steven: This comes from a fight I've been having this week with a website that is serving some XML documents as text/html
... What do we think is the best way of giving the user more control?

Erik: We had a similar thing with another pipeline language
... in that case we had a way of forcing the mediatype
... otherwise content sniffing...
... there are some different scenarios
... sometimes you don't know what is coming
... often you do know
... and this cases it can make sense to require it to be processed as a certain type.
... that is option 2 in your email

Steven: I think too that that is the better, cleaner option

Erik: Then we need to decided on a name for the attribute

Steven: Is there precedent in any XML related markup for the name of such an attribute?
... If XSLT has similar, it would be good to use that before inventing something ourselves

Erik: Good point [looks at XSLT]

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to research if anything else has such an attribute and to suggest a name [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-forms-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2142 - Research if anything else has such an attribute and to suggest a name [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-11-01].

Alain: I agree that method 2 is the better choice.

<ebruchez> https://doc.orbeon.com/xml-platform/processors/url-generator.html#xml-mode

Erik: We had a 'mode' for something that was reading, and had an XML, HTML, JSON mode etc. to force the mode.
... but XForms alsready has @mode...

Steven: I'll research

ACTION-2140 - Check google library for support of extension numbers in

telephone numbers

https://www.w3.org/2017/09/20-forms-minutes.html#action01

Erik: In process

ACTION-2140 - Check google library for support of extension numbers in

telephone numbers

https://www.w3.org/2017/09/20-forms-minutes.html#action01

Erik: Pending

Alert MIP Proposal

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Oct/0001

Steven: Quite a big change, but you think it's worth doing?

Erik: Nothing against it...
... in our form builder, we have the ability to specifiy multiple validation alerts for a control
... for each you can specify custom alert messages
... we put the constraints in the model
... with different elements
... with ids.
... So these things are linked with IDs
... If we adopted this proposal we wouldn't have to explicitely do the linking

Alain: I prefer things in the model, so it sounds better this way

Steven: Shall I spec it up?

Erik: In the view we have the ability to put the UI content as well.
... I don't want to remove labels from the view

Steven: Agree, I think I included an example of overriding the label in the view

<ebruchez> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Oct/0014.html

Erik: My question is only if we are happy with including host langauge elements in the model as well. I don;t think we did that before.
... I don't see a problem, but it is something to think about.

Steven: OK with me trying to spec it up.

Erik: Fine

<scribe> ACTION: Steven to spec up adding Help Hint Alert and Label to the model [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-forms-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-2143 - Spec up adding help hint alert and label to the model [on Steven Pemberton - due 2017-11-01].

Test suite

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Oct/0007

Steven: In progress

AOB

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Steven to research if anything else has such an attribute and to suggest a name [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-forms-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Steven to spec up adding Help Hint Alert and Label to the model [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/10/25-forms-minutes.html#action02]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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