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<manu> scribe: TallTed
<manu> https://ra21.org/
<manu> https://ra21.org/index.php/pilot-programs/
tzviya: working on scholarly publication issues, looks like Single-Sign-On, but seems to be bigger/broader cross-site
<stonematt> URL for TPAC Topics: https://goo.gl/8voHZS
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to mention one more he added - PING.
manu: added Privacy IG to list.
will be good to ping the other groups in advance of TPAC so
they can be ready to discuss.
... probably need 60 minutes for each of Privacy and
WebCommerce IGs
ChristopherA: there is some intent to bring CG and WG together, don't know who's going to be there yet
JoeAndrieu: would like to get an hour on Use Cases
manu: we only have about 4-5 hours first day; 6 hours second day
stonematt: started sketching importance into topic list
manu: no progress; need to get test suite into better shape; hoping for more progress to next week
<varn> need more help on data model spec? yes
<varn> ping manu to help
manu: assistance is welcome
ChristopherA: VC Primer may be a helpful tool
<manu> https://github.com/w3c/vc-test-suite/
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to add Joe to the queue :)
manu: David Chadwick, Joe Andrieu, and I had conversation about issue markers and spec text...
<dlongley> https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/issues/68
JoeAndrieu: we had three different interpretations of what was there, and Manu was going to try to write clarity
ChristopherA: Lionel in Credentials CG is going to borrow some text from a related IETF RFC we found
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to follow up on issue 68
manu: data model currently says a verifiable claim may be transmitted by the subject (the subject is the holder)
<ChristopherA> The RFC is https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6973
manu: separate use case, a holder
may hand over credential on behalf of subject (UNHCR hands over
medical credential on behalf of refugee)
... data model has talked about these 2 use cases. concern
about authentication of holder, subject, etc.
<manu> sample spec text: https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/issues/68#issuecomment-328590434
manu: could make non-normative section that points to other specs that cover how to handle authentication of subject-holder and/or onBehalfOf-holder
<manu> https://github.com/w3c/vc-data-model/issues/68#issuecomment-328847548
dlongley: data model doesn't need additions, but may need some changes to clarify what elements are and how/when they can be used
stonematt: we have implementations using the data model being built in parallel to the data model work...
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to note PING...
manu: we should reach out to
Privacy IG pretty soon
... typically takes them several weeks to do a review
<JoeAndrieu> Charter: https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/charter.html
[ discussion of what privacy flags we're supposed to raise and where, and how we can make Privacy IG's work easier and more productive ]
JoeAndrieu: guessing there should be a privacy section within the Use Case doc
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to respond to Joe
manu: we could put ecosystem/use-case privacy analysis in any of several docs
<JoeAndrieu> https://github.com/w3c/vc-use-cases
JoeAndrieu: quick review of doc
at https://github.com/w3c/vc-use-cases
... 4 pull requests pending, don't have auth to address
these
s/https:\/\/github.com\/w3c\/vc-use-cases/https:\/\/w3c.github.io\/vc-use-cases\//
scribe: some things in charter mean we should make some changes to use case doc...
<manu> https://www.w3.org/2017/vc/charter.html
scribe: charter makes identity on the web out-of-scope, but use case doc has a section that seems to focus there directly
stonematt: different interpretation of charter intent. representing a driver's license as a verifiable claim is not the same as trying to manage "identity on the web".
varn: there are many ways to verify identity, which we can point to and use in our approach
JoeAndrieu: that makes sense.
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to lawyer the charter.
<manu> "Focus their efforts on the identified use cases with a particular focus on the education sector. As a secondary focus, the group may address use cases on digital offers, receipts, and loyalty programs; discussion of these topics is not exclusive to this Working Group. "
manu: charter does have that scope statement, meant to keep us from going too far into the weeds, but not to completely isolate
varn: wonders whether tzviya's edu pubs use case fits in here
JoeAndrieu: we have a number of issues for use case additions, but nothing about federation, which seems to be what tzviya described
tzviya: certainly part of it is federation, there may be other pieces relevant to us (e.g., peer review) that we can help expand
JoeAndrieu: please raise issues
for any use cases not yet represented, especially if they can
be highlighted as education-related
... booked elsewhere the next couple weeks, but can dig into
this again thereafter
<manu> +1, yes, applicability is super important - good catch, Joe!
<Zakim> manu, you wanted to ask if we could work on this at RWoT?
<scribe> ... new section(s) to be "existing deployments" and/or "potential deployments"
<ChristopherA> I'm off, heading to Credentials CG.
[ crickets ]
persisting --
trouble with "realname" present and "ircname" in irc is there's no direct track between attendees and logs
Zakim et al used to handle this stuff somehow...
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