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<scribe> ScribeNick: addison

agenda

action items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

close action-614

<trackbot> Closed action-614.

action-643?

<trackbot> action-643 -- Richard Ishida to Close ttml issues -- due 2017-08-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/643

richard: a couple where there need to make notes, so haven't closed those

close action-643

<trackbot> Closed action-643.

action-644?

<trackbot> action-644 -- Richard Ishida to Add the language use case to string meta article -- due 2017-08-24 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/644

close action-644

<trackbot> Closed action-644.

info share

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Aug/0018.html

richard: advanced publishing lab set up
... links have info
... using jlreq as a source for some of the work they do
... hopefully doing gap analysis and looking at things that need to be priortized and worked on

addison: possiblity of contributing upates to jlreq?

richard: hoping that might happen, floated idea
... want to form a task force at w3c at some point
... to make gap analysis happen, probably not until next year

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/language-matrix.html

richard: been thinking about things related to how we handle requirements side of stuff
... motivated by discussions about improving funding, etc. for i18n
... one of the question is: can we not say the top 100 languages in the world
... these are supported at level x or y
... these not supported, etc.
... playing with ideas
... not straightforward
... sometimes there's only one feature broken
... sometimes the language but not the dialects
... language in 2 scripts, etc.
... which tech css, html, etc.
... all those problems, but seems like interesting exercise
... above link is early mock up of what it could look like
... colors indicate ability to use language on the web
... throw that out in case anyone has ideas
... if you scroll down to Javanese
... link there is to a mockup of gap analysis
... type in description of issues if any
... could get input that way
... also occured as a better way to do TF work
... better than trying to document how script works
... maybe start with gap analysis, quicker
... and then doc requirements to fill gaps
... any thoughts?

jck: one comment, need to handle carefully the choice of languages

bert: is this for working groups or for content authors?

richard: this is from jeff jaffe's idea to some degree
... original impetus, but from me, I would hope this would provoke people to work on gaps
... come to grips with gaps
... probably need to be tech specific
... page on javanese for example is on html/css
... for people who want to use on the web
... could be ordinary users
... but also define advanced users, as defined by speakers
... like dealing with paged media, such as ebooks
... covers a range of people

radar and active work review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/2945

issue title: Hinting at a translation language for outgoing links

the issue title: Hinting at a translation language for outgoing links

richard: links from an Indian page to an English article, browser may not be set to request their language
... wouldn't it be good if content-author could put in a tag that says "translate this content to language xxx"

addison: that would result in an Accept-Language header?

richard: they haven't talked about that bit
... plenty of cases where it's not a good idea
... how could you know what language I prefer to read the page in?

addison: probably want options for "in the language of this page" and "in the language my browser it set to"

richard: a lot of browsers are set wrong
... make it easier to use language settings in browsers

addison: opposite of what browser vendors have been doing

<scribe> ACTION: addison: remind working group to read whatwg html issue 2945 for discussion next telecon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-645 - Remind working group to read whatwg html issue 2945 for discussion next telecon [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-08-31].

string-meta

https://w3c.github.io/string-meta/

richard: some descriptions of things that don't work. do we need to add?

addison: yes

richard: sent a bunch of comments in a pull request

addison: will review

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/strings-and-bidi/index.en

richard: strings and bidi article
... can take an action
... been out for wide review, should we publish

strings and bidi article

addison: any objections to publishing"

<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish strings-and-bidi article [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-646 - Publish strings-and-bidi article [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-08-31].

richard: will publish panels/cards as images (alas!)

addison: have the html source somewhere?

richard: try to figure it out, "see how it works in your browser"
... wanted to do this for months, perhaps years
... gather all the issues in one place
... if you think of other issues, please let me know!!

AOB?

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Default Present: JcK, Bert, r12a, David, Addison, (IRC, only), Steven
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Inferring Scribes: addison
Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Aug/0017.html
Found Date: 24 Aug 2017
Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2017/08/24-i18n-minutes.html
People with action items: addison group remind richard working