<jamesn> Meeting: ARIA APG TF

<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-3%2C-2017-Meeting

<sirib> Thanks James

<jongund> scribe: jongund

<sirib> Im here

<sirib> oops didn't realize that im on mute

Look Back

MK: I wanted to talk about how far we have come since last July
... In the last two milestones, in the last half of last year we closed 30 issues
... In the first half of this year we closed 60 issues
... The last half of 2016 we did alot of refinement of the patterns and examples
... Most of the first half of this year we have been cleaning up content and addressing issue raised by reviewers
... I have been reflecting on this... and thinking about what has worked well...
... We have really got alot done this past year, we should be really proud of our work, and I am really happy about it
... Anyone else have anything else to say? Any feedback on the process or improvements?

MB: We took a bunch of design patterns out and focuses on what we could complete, that was a positive

MK: Has anyone looked at it from an end-to-end process

Discussion of next steps

MK: We have a status table, which needs some updating
... Do we know when 1.1 will be a recommendation?
... Discussing next milestones
... We will have two more working drafts before ARIA 1.1 goes to recommendations
... Any suggests on improving process

MB: The milestones have been useful to me

<jamesn> +1

MK: I don't want more treeview stuff, but I think there are higher priority needs

JG: I have some students who can take on projects

MK: MIlestonse are important for prioritizing development
... Project group related issues in Github.com

JG: Image carousel is important

MK: There is a W3C example in the EO group, I have problems with it

MB: Caorusels are a type of tab

MK: I have worked on an image carousel at facebook, we used article role
... There are alot of different ways to
... Right now the carousel 2 issues are in milestone 2
... I think we should have all the states and properties and widget roles that should be first priority
... States and properties don't align to a specific widget pattern
... like disclosure pattern does not have a role

MB: The roles and properties that go with a certain role are in the issues?

MK: yes
... Between the 2 status tables, we that carousel was lower priority

MB: For the switch design pattern what are the properties

MK: It is on and off

MB: we will use aria-checked

MK: We need design pattern documentation, prose is harder
... The issues with complicated patterns, we have had request break out menu and menubar
... There are issue with the complexity of combobox
... we need to try to simplify

JB: I am wiolling to work on design patterns

<mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Design-Patterns-Development-Status

MK: There should be a purpose of the double thumb

MB: A price range is a good example

MK: You wnat to variables that there are dependencies

MB: A range of something

MK: If you change the date range, it may effect another slider

MB: What does a double thumb slider do

MK: One slider effects the range of another slider
... Date range you want a calendar

JG: We will make it a price range

MK: I think I will put things related to combobox and switch in a new milestone

<MichielBijl> scribe: MichielBijl

MB: I think it’s important to promote when we release a new working draft. With the current one there was no mention of it on the ARIA list for example.

MK: I enthusiastically agree with that!

MB: I talked to Léonie the other day and she suggested we also ask for reviews from other WGs. I think that’s a really good idea.

MK: I can write an e-mail with a short change log and send that out.

<sirib> where can I see that?

<sirib> Michiel Biji said he was looking some of the Matt work

NO MEETING NEXT WEEK (10th July)

<sirib> ok Thanks

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