IRC log of aria-apg on 2017-07-03

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Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 03 July 2017
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Meeting: ARIA APG TF
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17:05:17 [MichielBijl]
present+
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agenda - https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-3%2C-2017-Meeting
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present+
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present+ShirishaBalusani
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https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/July-3%2C-2017-Meeting
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Thanks James
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Im here
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oops didn't realize that im on mute
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TOPIC: Look Back
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MK: I wanted to talk about how far we have come since last July
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MK: In the last two milestones, in the last half of last year we closed 30 issues
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MK: In the first half of this year we closed 60 issues
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MK: The last half of 2016 we did alot of refinement of the patterns and examples
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MK: Most of the first half of this year we have been cleaning up content and addressing issue raised by reviewers
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MK: I have been reflecting on this... and thinking about what has worked well...
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MK: We have really got alot done this past year, we should be really proud of our work, and I am really happy about it
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MK: Anyone else have anything else to say? Any feedback on the process or improvements?
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MB: We took a bunch of design patterns out and focuses on what we could complete, that was a positive
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MK: Has anyone looked at it from an end-to-end process
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TOPIC: Discussion of next steps
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MK: We have a status table, which needs some updating
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MK: Do we know when 1.1 will be a recommendation?
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MK: Discussing next milestones
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MK: We will have two more working drafts before ARIA 1.1 goes to recommendations
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MK: Any suggests on improving process
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MB: The milestones have been useful to me
17:24:36 [jamesn]
+1
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MK: I don't want more treeview stuff, but I think there are higher priority needs
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JG: I have some students who can take on projects
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MK: MIlestonse are important for prioritizing development
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MK: Project group related issues in Github.com
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JG: Image carousel is important
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MK: There is a W3C example in the EO group, I have problems with it
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MB: Caorusels are a type of tab
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MK: I have worked on an image carousel at facebook, we used article role
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MK: There are alot of different ways to
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MK: Right now the carousel 2 issues are in milestone 2
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MK: I think we should have all the states and properties and widget roles that should be first priority
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MK: States and properties don't align to a specific widget pattern
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MK: like disclosure pattern does not have a role
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MB: The roles and properties that go with a certain role are in the issues?
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MK: yes
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MK: Between the 2 status tables, we that carousel was lower priority
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MB: For the switch design pattern what are the properties
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MK: It is on and off
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MB: we will use aria-checked
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MK: We need design pattern documentation, prose is harder
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MK: The issues with complicated patterns, we have had request break out menu and menubar
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MK: There are issue with the complexity of combobox
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MK: we need to try to simplify
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JB: I am wiolling to work on design patterns
17:45:14 [mck]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Design-Patterns-Development-Status
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MK: There should be a purpose of the double thumb
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MB: A price range is a good example
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MK: You wnat to variables that there are dependencies
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MB: A range of something
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MK: If you change the date range, it may effect another slider
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MB: What does a double thumb slider do
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MK: One slider effects the range of another slider
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MK: Date range you want a calendar
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JG: We will make it a price range
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MK: I think I will put things related to combobox and switch in a new milestone
17:56:24 [MichielBijl]
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MB: I think it’s important to promote when we release a new working draft. With the current one there was no mention of it on the ARIA list for example.
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MK: I enthusiastically agree with that!
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MB: I talked to Léonie the other day and she suggested we also ask for reviews from other WGs. I think that’s a really good idea.
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MK: I can write an e-mail with a short change log and send that out.
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where can I see that?
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Michiel Biji said he was looking some of the Matt work
18:07:25 [MichielBijl]
NO MEETING NEXT WEEK (10th July)
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ok Thanks
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